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  • #61
    Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

    Biological males in female sport is something the vast majority of people oppose. Anyone with a daughter in sports has a stake. Everyone said it wouldn't have a real impact. Then we had the trans swimmer win an NCAA title. Then a biological male beat up a bunch of women to win a olympic gold medal. Now we have lots of college volleyball teams forfeiting games with SJSU because they have a biological male on their team that is dominating.

    Again, nobody is arguing it is the top issue. But stop kidding yourself that it isn't a big deal.
    I just think from a real policy perspective I wouldn't waste too much energy at the federal level. Most of the issues that impact folks' lives are local/state issues and need to be solved there.

    I just think the issue highlights that the left can't be trusted because they will take us all off the rails on their crazy train.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
      By the way, analysts are saying that Trump ad that ran non-stop at the end saying "Kamala is for they/them. Trump is for you." was incredibly effective. In case you missed it, it contained multiple sound bites of Harris promising to provide sex-change surgery to transgender prison inmates.
      I saw something where it said Trump was the middle finger from the right to the left, I thought that about summed it up.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

        It is exactly this kind of obtuseness that is killing the democratic party.
        Chris Matthews said it best- "democrats don't know how people think anymore." My warning to the right is to quietly understand how bad a candidate Donald Trump still was. Just because the Democrats ran the two worst Presidential candidates in US history against him twice doesn't mean the people really, really love you. So listen to me and let transgender issues be solved where they ought to be solved.
        Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
        -General George S. Patton

        I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
        -DOCTOR Wuap

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post

          Chris Matthews said it best- "democrats don't know how people think anymore." My warning to the right is to quietly understand how bad a candidate Donald Trump still was. Just because the Democrats ran the two worst Presidential candidates in US history against him twice doesn't mean the people really, really love you. So listen to me and let transgender issues be solved where they ought to be solved.
          Two worst candidates in US history.
          "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
          "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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          • #65
            Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

            Two worst candidates in US history.
            Who were worse than Hillary Clinton and Mamala?

            Case in point-they both lost to Donald Trump. Hillary let it slip away but Mamala actually ran a good campaign but was crushed. Democrats made a lot of mistakes and President Biden screwed them over bigly, but Harris was an awful candidate.
            Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
            -General George S. Patton

            I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
            -DOCTOR Wuap

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

              Biological males in female sport is something the vast majority of people oppose. Anyone with a daughter in sports has a stake. Everyone said it wouldn't have a real impact. Then we had the trans swimmer win an NCAA title. Then a biological male beat up a bunch of women to win a olympic gold medal. Now we have lots of college volleyball teams forfeiting games with SJSU because they have a biological male on their team that is dominating.

              Again, nobody is arguing it is the top issue. But stop kidding yourself that it isn't a big deal.
              Oh brother. Now misgendering people? Only legitimate crazy Twitter accounts called that person a male. How do you fall for this?

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Maximus View Post

                Oh brother. Now misgendering people? Only legitimate crazy Twitter accounts called that person a male. How do you fall for this?
                This is part of why I think Democrats were crushed. The reality is real biological girls are losing athletic competitions to real biological boys and you want to take offense to the questionable reference. In the real world to those concerned about this issue they think the misgendering of the boxer is a mote compared to the beams of the SJSU volleyball player and Lia Thomas.

                Donald Trump knew this and he exploited it well-much to the chagrin of the faculty lounge.
                Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                -General George S. Patton

                I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                -DOCTOR Wuap

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post

                  I just think from a real policy perspective I wouldn't waste too much energy at the federal level. Most of the issues that impact folks' lives are local/state issues and need to be solved there.

                  I just think the issue highlights that the left can't be trusted because they will take us all off the rails on their crazy train.
                  It is incredibly sad how even main stream right hates trans people. Like legitimately some would do anything to ostracize trans people. Some states have politicians celebrating when bullying and even death happen.

                  It's sad to see so many fall for the culture war hysteria. No one here has been negatively affected by the 3 to 4 people competing in high school each year but you'd think it js ww3.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post

                    This is part of why I think Democrats were crushed. The reality is real biological girls are losing athletic competitions to real biological boys and you want to take offense to the questionable reference. In the real world to those concerned about this issue they think the misgendering of the boxer is a mote compared to the beams of the SJSU volleyball player and Lia Thomas.

                    Donald Trump knew this and he exploited it well-much to the chagrin of the faculty lounge.
                    This is resulting in calling any female with any male like features as tend even if we all know they aren't teans. The Olympic boxer was not trams. That isn't an opinion.

                    The sjsu thing os all hysteria. No one knew until she told a friend but now we're supposed to believe she had an advantage ?

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                    • #70
                      Obviously you folks missed the recent news confirming that the boxer has XY chromosomes, testicles, and male-level testosterone. That is by definition a biological male.
                      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                      "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post

                        Who were worse than Hillary Clinton and Mamala?

                        Case in point-they both lost to Donald Trump. Hillary let it slip away but Mamala actually ran a good campaign but was crushed. Democrats made a lot of mistakes and President Biden screwed them over bigly, but Harris was an awful candidate.
                        George Mcgovern was pretty terrible.
                        Walter Mondale lost in maybe the biggest landslide in history. Terrible candidate.
                        George B McClellan promised to surrender to the confederacy if elected.
                        Woodrow Wilson was a horrible president
                        etc

                        Calling them the worst ever because they lost to Trump is very myopic. Just the kind of hyperbole that Trump likes to use.
                        "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                        "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                        "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Maximus View Post

                          It is incredibly sad how even main stream right hates trans people. Like legitimately some would do anything to ostracize trans people. Some states have politicians celebrating when bullying and even death happen.

                          It's sad to see so many fall for the culture war hysteria. No one here has been negatively affected by the 3 to 4 people competing in high school each year but you'd think it js ww3.
                          Pull the string. It is absurd to have biological males competing against biological females. Don't obfuscate with weak ass sympathy about the right hating trans people blah blah blah. This is a real simple thing to understand-it is absurd to have biological males competing against biological females.
                          Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                          -General George S. Patton

                          I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                          -DOCTOR Wuap

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                            George Mcgovern was pretty terrible.
                            Walter Mondale lost in maybe the biggest landslide in history. Terrible candidate.
                            George B McClellan promised to surrender to the confederacy if elected.
                            Woodrow Wilson was a horrible president
                            etc

                            Calling them the worst ever because they lost to Trump is very myopic. Just the kind of hyperbole that Trump likes to use.
                            I can accept McGovern. Mondale was running against not only a great candidate but a great sitting President. Fair point on McClellan-the U has Teddy Bundy and West Point had GBM. Wilson was a much better candidate than HRC and Mamala.

                            I think Trump was bad. He might have had some evil genius in him, but he was a poor candidate and a poor POTUS, IMO. It took a special kind of poor candidate to lose to him and in Mamala's case-get crushed.
                            Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                            -General George S. Patton

                            I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                            -DOCTOR Wuap

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post

                              Pull the string. It is absurd to have biological males competing against biological females. Don't obfuscate with weak ass sympathy about the right hating trans people blah blah blah. This is a real simple thing to understand-it is absurd to have biological males competing against biological females.
                              If someone transitions as a kid do they have an advantage?

                              The point on sjsu is no one thought twicr on her until it came out so if theres some grand advantage how did no one notice

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                                Obviously you folks missed the recent news confirming that the boxer has XY chromosomes, testicles, and male-level testosterone. That is by definition a biological male.
                                I didn't find that report, only that 'XY' chromosome was 'leaked'.

                                Just for some nuance, a phenotypic female could have undescended testicles and have an XY complement, but have reduced or absent enzyme activity that would decrease male characteristics. I'm only stating this in case people read your 'testicles' and thinks a simple medical exam could have solved all the controversy. Unless of course that's the case, which would then be one huge shitshow for the international boxing committee.
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