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The whole thing would be resolved with starlink, encryption, and onion routing."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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If I get to decide what is disinformation or not then I’ll go for it… otherwise go “dark” as far as the government is concerned. EFF!Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
No misinformation or pro-Trump, pro-Russia inforware to worry about when you can hide it.
"If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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They didn't make him fear for his life and go into hiding. He didn't move to impeach a democratic POTUS twice. He didn't take the unusual step of holding a long press conference urging against supporting a specific democratic candidate.Originally posted by Moliere View Post
Not sure I agree with you on the treatment of Romney. Dems literally said he would "put black people back in chains" which is pretty offensive and racially charged, especially for a. person who grew up in a family that fought for civil rights.
It wasn't democrat legislators who publicly floated the idea of recalling him from the senate for lack of loyalty to their leader.
Democrats didn't accost him in the airport. His own party made him run for his life the capitol. He was relentlessly mock and bullied online by Trump and humiliated by being asked to apply for SOS only to learn it was done as a joke. His own niece bowed to pressure to stop using the Romney name in her surname.
He has shared he has been shunned his GOP colleagues in the senate during his final term. Democrats still talk to him.
All of that outweighs the hyper-partisan bullshit rhetoric that was unkindly spewed 12 years ago.
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Disagree. The Dems were horrible to Romney during the campaign. They were blatantly dishonest and disgustingly calling him a racist. Dems were also very wrong in their criticism. Remember when the Dems blew off Romney calling Russia our greatest threat?Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
They didn't make him fear for his life and go into hiding. He didn't move to impeach a democratic POTUS twice. He didn't take the unusual step of holding a long press conference urging against supporting a specific democratic candidate.
It wasn't democrat legislators who publicly floated the idea of recalling him from the senate for lack of loyalty to their leader.
Democrats didn't accost him in the airport. His own party made him run for his life the capitol. He was relentlessly mock and bullied online by Trump and humiliated by being asked to apply for SOS only to learn it was done as a joke. His own niece bowed to pressure to stop using the Romney name in her surname.
He has shared he has been shunned his GOP colleagues in the senate during his final term. Democrats still talk to him.
All of that outweighs the hyper-partisan bullshit rhetoric that was unkindly spewed 12 years ago."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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I do remember. They got that one very wrong. And now we have the GOP once again trying to elect a guy, who at the very least ,holds Putin in high esteem. Don't misunderstand me, just as I've said before, I'm not saying this things were right; rather as I've outlined in my previous post the GOP has far outweighed democrats their awfulness in terms of they treated Romney. With regards to Russia, the democrats and Romney are aligned on Russia and the GOP is at odds. So it is odd to revisit that point as a sign of mistreatment. Because just maybe the GOP is in the wrong about this now?Originally posted by Moliere View Post
Disagree. The Dems were horrible to Romney during the campaign. They were blatantly dishonest and disgustingly calling him a racist. Dems were also very wrong in their criticism. Remember when the Dems blew off Romney calling Russia our greatest threat?
I'm puzzled you don't see MAGA's treatment as worse when it them who put Romney's safety in jeopardy. And when Trump plan to pardon those he encouraged to commit that chaos.
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So, from what I can tell, Trump has accepted the rules of the debate, which are the same rules as the first debate and what was agreed to months ago. Harris has not agreed to the rules, which is odd since I thought she was the one mocking Trump for not wanting to debate. Apparently Harris wants the mics to be live during the entire debate."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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Yes, the Harris team knows that Trump would not be able to control himself and like the image of his continually trying to talk over her. They also like the image of her fact-checking his lies as a way to frustrate him. Apparently Trump's team agrees with them. They are managing a child and must establish some guardrails.Originally posted by Moliere View PostSo, from what I can tell, Trump has accepted the rules of the debate, which are the same rules as the first debate and what was agreed to months ago. Harris has not agreed to the rules, which is odd since I thought she was the one mocking Trump for not wanting to debate. Apparently Harris wants the mics to be live during the entire debate.Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!
For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.
Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."
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It's Harris that wanted hot mics... The Trump team wanted the same rules as the first debate. So who is the child here?Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
Yes, the Harris team knows that Trump would not be able to control himself and like the image of his continually trying to talk over her. They also like the image of her fact-checking his lies as a way to frustrate him. Apparently Trump's team agrees with them. They are managing a child and must establish some guardrails.
Komrade Harris wanted a cheap sheet and to sit down...
And ABC claims they won't give the Democrats the questions in advance, like they did when Trump debated Crooked Hillary."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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It makes one wonder why Romney likes hanging out with the Dems... He is like a dog returning to its vomit.Originally posted by Moliere View Post
Disagree. The Dems were horrible to Romney during the campaign. They were blatantly dishonest and disgustingly calling him a racist. Dems were also very wrong in their criticism. Remember when the Dems blew off Romney calling Russia our greatest threat?"If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Given the actions of the Dems in recent history I hate them more now... Let me give you some more recent examples:Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
Ted, I remember before you became a MAGA person you used to at least say you hated both parties equally
1. In the spending bill the FCC got like $42.5b to expand rural internet... but decided not to give any to the most promising solution for political reasons:
2. The Biden administration says they are going fund high speed rail now after they spent $7.5 billion on 7 EV changing stations... Ask California how their high speed rail is going:
The Dems are nothing more than a bunch of political hacks that can't get sh*t done. Now I hope they lose and lose bigly."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Yes, that's what Moli said and I gave the reasons.Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
It's Harris that wanted hot mics... The Trump team wanted the same rules as the first debate. So who is the child here?
Trump is still and will ever be the child.
Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!
For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.
Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."
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Once you allow yourself to believe that your political opponents are fundamentally and uniformly bad/evil, you have crossed the line from a partisan to a cultist.Originally posted by Uncle Ted View PostGiven the actions of the Dems in recent history I hate them more now... Let me give you some more recent examples:"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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