2024 Presidential Election Thread

[Uncle Ted]

Sounds like the shooter's search history indicated he was looking various major political events for both Biden and Trump. It points to it being not partisan but kind of an eff the world move .


"The investigation remains in its early stages, officials caution. Still, in some ways, Crooks seems similar to the dozens of other young men who’ve wreaked havoc across the US with high-powered assault-style rifles in recent years. He had few close friends, he would often go shooting at a local firing range, and he didn’t seem to display strongly held views that would suggest a politically driven assassination, according to CNN interviews with law enforcement and a review of notes from a briefing to Congress.

In addition to the former president, Crooks had searched online about President Joe Biden and had photos on his phone of other prominent figures from both parties. He searched for the location of Trump’s rally as well as the upcoming Democratic National Convention, the briefing notes say, and discovered that Trump planned to appear just an hour’s drive away from his home in the Pittsburgh suburbs.

That suggests Crooks may have been looking to carry out a high-profile shooting, and the Trump event’s proximity and timing offered the most accessible opportunity, federal officials have speculated.

“Even though he didn’t get his primary target, the shooter was successful in a lot of ways because he got closer to doing something no one has done in decades,” one federal official told CNN, referring to the assassination of a presidential candidate.

It remains unclear if Crooks intended to carry out a much larger attack and started with Trump because that was the way to gain the most notoriety.

Crooks had also searched for information on another recent mass shooter who shot and killed four classmates at a Michigan high school in 2021. The web searches about that shooter, Ethan Crumbley, are consistent with what law enforcement officials have seen in other mass shooters who research people they wish to emulate, in part, as a way to form their own idea of how to do something bigger, the federal official said."

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/19/polit...nvs/index.html


I've read elsewhere that they also found evidence (unshockingly) of the shooting looking for information on depression. It's not something a rational person does, but it doesn't equate the definition of be delusional.
My opinion with a lot of these spree shooter who aren't politically driven, and even a few who are, is that people can become so profoundly depressed and alienated that they disconnected from reality. It makes it easier for them to harm others, especially when it atypical for them:

Derealization is an alteration in the perception of the external world, causing those with the condition to perceive it as unreal, distant, distorted or in other words falsified. Other symptoms include feeling as if one's environment is lacking in spontaneity, emotional coloring, and depth.^[1] It is a dissociative symptom that may appear in moments of severe stress.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depersonalization

While they logically know others are the real, they weary from depression and estrangement and don't pushback against this type of disconnection and instead funnel the pain into anger.


Everyone will pay lip serve to better access to mental health, but then go on to not anything about it. The time to help these people is not when they jot down their targets and start reversing the event in their head.

Thanks for the theory about the shooter.

The shooter used three foreign, encrypted communication platforms:

The shooter used three encrypted platforms in Germany, New Zealand and Belgium.

https://www.axios.com/2024/07/18/sec...nation-attempt

I also read they found a second phone that belonged to him.

We know that Iranian terrorists want Trump dead. Unlike Grandpa Joe Terrorists fear Trump. So there may be a Terrorist connection but I am betting he was a Democratic party operative, working for Hillary Clinton.

[frank ryan]

Thanks for the theory about the shooter.

The shooter used three foreign, encrypted communication platforms:


https://www.axios.com/2024/07/18/sec...nation-attempt

I also read they found a second phone that belonged to him.

We know that Iranian terrorists want Trump dead. Unlike Grandpa Joe Terrorists fear Trump. So there may be a Terrorist connection but I am betting he was a Democratic party operative, working for Hillary Clinton.

The Biden admin warned Trump of the Iranian threat. It's different but also very real.

[frank ryan]

JD Vance has ties to project 2025. Not shocking

https://fortune.com/2024/07/19/jd-va...-donald-trump/

[frank ryan]

Russia is so excited about JD Vance. Really odd for our adversaries to get amped about VP candidates. He must be special.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/russia...-pick-jd-vance

[Uncle Ted]

What is with the Dems with all their violent rhetoric?

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[Uncle Ted]

Looks like the DNC is going ahead with a virtual role call starting as early as tomorrow to nominate Grandpa Joe:

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000...9-fc9f7ac00000

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/0...-vote-00169803

[Uncle Ted]

Russia is so excited about JD Vance. Really odd for our adversaries to get amped about VP candidates. He must be special.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/russia...-pick-jd-vance

Maybe Russia doesn’t like all that woke foreign policy crap…

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[frank ryan]

What is with the Dems with all their violent rhetoric?

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Ted, condemn rhetoric that if you find it offensive, but don't ignore the mountains of rhetoric that has been coming right, especially when it's rhetoric than comes from candidates of leaders themselves.

Hmm, I think Whitmer was that target of more than just rhetoric. A kidnapping plot against her by right wingers was stopped:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gretch...idnapping_plot

[Jeff Lebowski]

Maybe Russia doesn’t like all that woke foreign policy crap…

More likely they see him as a useful idiot.

[USUC]

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[LiveCoug]

He did it. Amazing. Is it too much to home that his replacement is moderate and young? I can't get behind Kamala, but there are a few dems I'd for sure vote for over Trump

[Northwestcoug]

I said Biden would be out by last weekend but it’s going to be this weekend and this time I’m going to be right.

Whoa. Nice Swish. Not even a SUwish.

[Uncle Ted]

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Let the lefty insurrection begin!

[Uncle Ted]

The Democratic Party, where democracy goes to die…

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[LVAllen]

The Democratic Party, where democracy goes to die…

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As if the GOP gives a shit about democracy.