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  • #91
    Originally posted by dabrockster View Post
    WE GOT THE HOUSE!!!!!


    Just got the call from my realtor that they accepted our offer.. Man that was a long time for us to be in limbo but it was worth it.. I am so stoked. I love this house. Neds soem minor cosmetic updates which will be easy, but the yard is sweet and my son was so in love with the house.

    He's going to be so excited.. I had to prepare him in case we didn't get it and he was upset at the idea of not having this huge backyard and play area..
    Congrats!
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    • #92
      Originally posted by mUUser View Post
      Soliciting advice: Refinance or not?...

      Have 9 yrs remaining on 10 yr loan. Mo payment is $3,200. Not a jumbo and am greater than 20% equity. Current rate is 4.75%

      New terms are 3.75% (APR is 3.874%) for 10 years. No points. Mo payment estimated at $2,755. Would like to stay another 10 years, but who knows...could be 2 years, 5 years, 10 years or 40 years.
      No closing costs? How much do they add to your loan? Treat the amount they add to your loan the same way you would closing costs.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by dabrockster View Post
        WE GOT THE HOUSE!!!!!
        Congrats!
        Get confident, stupid
        -landpoke

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        • #94
          Originally posted by mUUser View Post
          Soliciting advice: Refinance or not?...

          Have 9 yrs remaining on 10 yr loan. Mo payment is $3,200. Not a jumbo and am greater than 20% equity. Current rate is 4.75%

          New terms are 3.75% (APR is 3.874%) for 10 years. No points. Mo payment estimated at $2,755. Would like to stay another 10 years, but who knows...could be 2 years, 5 years, 10 years or 40 years.
          If closing costs are 2,000 then you would still save 13k by refinancing in straight cash terms. That is without taking the time value of money into consideration (IE $100 saved now is worth more than a $100 saved next year.)
          "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

          "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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          • #95
            Originally posted by dabrockster View Post
            WE GOT THE HOUSE!!!!!


            Just got the call from my realtor that they accepted our offer.. Man that was a long time for us to be in limbo but it was worth it.. I am so stoked. I love this house. Neds soem minor cosmetic updates which will be easy, but the yard is sweet and my son was so in love with the house.

            He's going to be so excited.. I had to prepare him in case we didn't get it and he was upset at the idea of not having this huge backyard and play area..
            Great news! Congrats!
            "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

            Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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            • #96
              Are they allowing 1st & 2nd mortgages to avoid PMI again?
              We lost all our equity in the move from NM, and so we are enjoying throwing money into the PMI hole.
              I intend to live forever.
              So far, so good.
              --Steven Wright

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Brian View Post
                Are they allowing 1st & 2nd mortgages to avoid PMI again?
                We lost all our equity in the move from NM, and so we are enjoying throwing money into the PMI hole.
                Brian: The 80-20 loan was not an offer they gave me so I think it is not available right now. And I asked specifically about it and they said, "no"..


                Sorry..

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                • #98
                  Well, just locked in my rate after a little wheeling and dealing between two different mortgage brokers..

                  I got a Fixed 30 year FHA Loan at the rate of 4.375%..


                  Dude said I was the lowest rate he has ever done for an FHA loan and congratulated me... I thought I was happy at 4.5%.. This is a happy day...

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                  • #99
                    Thanks for your help, Junkie. I was able to talk them down a couple more eights and still keep the fees the same, like you recommended.

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                    • Which option is better if we will likely sell our house in the next 5 years? I'm too dumb lazy to do the math but I'm sure it will take > 5 years to make up $800 cost difference.

                      Rate . Points APR Fees
                      4.375 0.000 4.424 $1149
                      4.125 1.816 4.365 $1995

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                      • Originally posted by Art Vandelay View Post
                        Which option is better if we will likely sell our house in the next 5 years? I'm too dumb lazy to do the math but I'm sure it will take > 5 years to make up $800 cost difference.

                        Rate . Points APR Fees
                        4.375 0.000 4.424 $1149
                        4.125 1.816 4.365 $1995
                        If you're going to be in your house five years, it's good to take the points and go with a little higher rate. But in your case, they're not passing on the points. They're pocketing them. 1.8 points and they drop your fees $800. Greedy bastards.

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                        • Originally posted by Art Vandelay View Post
                          Which option is better if we will likely sell our house in the next 5 years? I'm too dumb lazy to do the math but I'm sure it will take > 5 years to make up $800 cost difference.

                          Rate . Points APR Fees
                          4.375 0.000 4.424 $1149
                          4.125 1.816 4.365 $1995
                          Depends on how much the loan is
                          "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

                          "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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                          • Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
                            Depends on how much the loan is
                            You would save ~800 dollars going with the lower rate over 5 years taking into consideration the extra fees. IE pay the extra fees it will be worth it.
                            "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

                            "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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                            • Originally posted by Solon View Post
                              It's a total crapshoot. We got very lucky: the house was approved for a short-sale in mid-May but the buyers decided they wanted a bigger place and bailed on the sale. So, 10 or 12 days later we offered the exact same price. In theory, all the bank had to do was change the names on the application (it's not like the comparable sales changed much in that 10-12 days), and it still took 4 weeks. I hear it's pretty standard to wait 3-4 months.

                              So, we made the offer at the end of May and just got approval today. And that was with every scrap of paperwork already in place. What I can't figure out about the way these short-sales are done is how they're going to revive the market, since ordinary folks can't afford to wait 3-4 months to hear if their bid has been accepted or not. Most people have jobs or circumstances that require them to move within a set timeframe. So, it seems to me that short-sales are only a good bet for investors or people who already live in the area but don't own a place. Not exactly the recipe for recovery that I would expect but hey, what do I know?

                              ER Coug might be the guy to ask. He had some good pointers for me on short-sales. The guy's sharp.
                              After all of the last-minute shenanigans I could imagine, boiling down to the sellers threatening to hold out on their way to sign the papers and the (short-sale approving) bank ordering 2 additional appraisals that they normally don't do, we finally closed on this today. Even though we were told in June that it was a done deal.

                              Moral of the story: a short sale is hell on the timeline, but a great deal in the end.
                              "More crazy people to Provo go than to any other town in the state."
                              -- Iron County Record. 23 August, 1912. (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...23/ed-1/seq-4/)

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                              • Originally posted by Solon View Post
                                After all of the last-minute shenanigans I could imagine, boiling down to the sellers threatening to hold out on their way to sign the papers and the (short-sale approving) bank ordering 2 additional appraisals that they normally don't do, we finally closed on this today. Even though we were told in June that it was a done deal.

                                Moral of the story: a short sale is hell on the timeline, but a great deal in the end.
                                Congrats Solon! Now I can shoot at you will my pellet gun
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