Palin v. Chaffetz

[LiveCoug]

The way this issue has become politicized typifies much of what is wrong with modern politics, and it drives me crazy. The republicans stake their flag in the ground, the democrats stake theirs, and pretty soon the underlying issue is no longer relevant -- it's all about protecting that stake in the ground.

this is very not untrue.

[Commando]

Who is dumber? You decide.

[Commando]

No, you didn't understand the context of her statement.

But to answer your original question, Chaffetz wins.

help me out with some context about Chaffetz' comments...

does this have anything to do with it?

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/0000000000000769

[Fiyero]

Did you miss Palin in SLC this afternoon? You weren't the only ones.

http://cougaruteforum.com/showpost.php?p=237938&postcount=111

[old_gregg]

"Well, let's see. There's ― of course in the great history of America there have been rulings that there's never going to be absolute consensus by every American, and there are those issues, again, like Roe v. Wade, where I believe are best held on a state level and addressed there. So, you know, going through the history of America, there would be others but ―" --Sarah Palin, unable to name a Supreme Court decision she disagreed with other than Roe vs. Wade, interview with Katie Couric, CBS News, Oct. 1, 2008"

"I think on a national level your Department of Law there in the White House would look at some of the things that we've been charged with and automatically throw them out."

Department of Law? ROFL

"All of 'em, any of 'em that have been in front of me over all these years."

palin on what media she reads on a daily basis (i.e. none).

"so that there is hope and opportunity in our neighboring country of Afghanistan"

"[Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have] gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers."

private companies are too big and expensive for taxpayers?

“I’m the mayor, I can do whatever I want until the courts tell me I can’t.’”

“Oil and coal? Of course, it’s a fungible commodity and they don’t flag, you know, the molecules, where it’s going and where it’s not. But in the sense of the Congress today, they know that there are very, very hungry domestic markets that need that oil first. So, I believe that what Congress is going to do, also, is not to allow the export bans to such a degree that it’s Americans that get stuck to holding the bag without the energy source that is produced here, pumped here. It’s got to flow into our domestic markets first.”

not much needs to be said about that abortion of an answer

“Perhaps so.” –Sarah Palin, when asked if we may need to go to war with Russia because of the Georgia crisis

“I’ve been so focused on state government, I haven’t really focused much on the war in Iraq.”

this woman is hilariously vapid, and it truly scares me that people felt comfortable with her a 70-something year old man's heartbeat away from being the single most powerful human being on the planet.

none of this is to say, however, that i am defending jason chaffetz, because he is a genuine dumbass and embarrassment to our state.

[frank ryan]

none of this is to say, however, that i am defending jason chaffetz, because he is a genuine dumbass and embarrassment to our state.

i hope the tsa keeps screening him until all their screeners know who he is.

[JohnnyLingo]

this woman is hilariously vapid, and it truly scares me that people felt comfortable with her a 70-something year old man's heartbeat away from being the single most powerful human being on the planet.

I'm not going to defend Palin, but Obama is not much better. Zero real-world experience, a long list of gaffes (verbal and otherwise)... those who kill Palin and worship at the Altar of Barack are terribly inconsistent.

[Babs]

Who is dumber? You decide.

Palin states

Chaffetz states

Palin's comments aren't dumb. The smart politician uses as many words necessary to convey as little as possible.

[YOhio]

Did anyone see Sarah Palin spoof Shatner on Conan? Pretty funny.

[JohnnyLingo]

Palin's comments aren't dumb. The smart politician uses as many words necessary to convey as little as possible.

Her comment is not dumb. Saying "there is no proof that man is causing global climate change" is not a stupid thing to say.

If you want to quibble over what she meant, take the SloanHater route and fail miserably.

If you want to attack what she really said, go after Indy.

Let me know how that goes.

[old_gregg]

I'm not going to defend Palin, but Obama is not much better. Zero real-world experience, a long list of gaffes (verbal and otherwise)... those who kill Palin and worship at the Altar of Barack are terribly inconsistent.

you'll not get me to defend barack obama in many instances, but the man can cite more cases that have come before the supreme court than roe v. wade. if by zero real world experience you mean limited foreign policy exposure, then yes, i agree wholeheartedly; but would you really prefer a woman whose fopo credentials are "durrrr i can see putin from my house." also, i'm interested in the "long list of gaffes," i cannot think of one from obama (i.e. prove it). biden is another story, obviously. comparing a harvard law school valedictorian and prolific professor at chicago law school to some hillbilly university of idaho veteran of the alaska pageant circuit who doesn't know where pakistan is is a bit of a stretch, and a lot like comparing an apple to, well, some other really stupid, but beautiful and bitchy fruit.

[JohnnyLingo]

you'll not get me to defend barack obama in many instances, but the man can cite more cases that have come before the supreme court than roe v. wade.

I'm sure he can. Again, I'm not defending Palin... being able to cite more Supreme Court cases than she can is not exactly impressive.

if by zero real world experience you mean limited foreign policy exposure, then yes, i agree wholeheartedly; but would you really prefer a woman whose fopo credentials are "durrrr i can see putin from my house."

No, I would not. As I said above, Obama is better than Palin. Just not a whole lot better.

also, i'm interested in the "long list of gaffes," i cannot think of one from obama (i.e. prove it).

What news sources do you follow? Certain outlets had a field day whenever President Bush misspoke or tripped up, and now they ignore President Obama's gaffes. You can be forgiven for not being aware of the latter incidents. Let's go over a few of them.

Barack Obama jokes about Nancy Reagan having séances in the White House. He later called her to apologize after the AP noted that although she had consulted astrologers, “she did not hold conversations with the dead”:

On his maiden Marine One trip Obama breaches protocol and makes life uncomfortable for an enlisted marine by shaking the the serviceman’s hand as he’s saluting his commander-in-chief.

Gordon Brown presents the new President with: a pen holder carved from the timbers of HMS Gannett, a sister ship of HMS Resolute; the commissioning certificate of HMS Resolute; and a seven-volume biography of Winston Churchill. In return, the Prime minister gets 25 DVDs, which don’t work in Britain.

Barack Obama jokes about the disabled on the Jay Leno show. Afterwards, he calls the head of the Special Olympics to apologise:

I'm not saying President Obama is a moron, but he's had his share of dumb moments over the last year or so.

Comparing a harvard law school valedictorian and prolific professor at chicago law school to some hillbilly university of idaho veteran of the alaska pageant circuit who doesn't know where pakistan is is a bit of a stretch, and a lot like comparing an apple to, well, some other really stupid, but beautiful and bitchy fruit.

To sum up, President Obama graduated from Harvard law, taught law, and was a community organizer. How that supremely qualifies him to be president of the United States, I have no idea. There is no real world experience in there. At least Palin, as governor of a state, had to deal with things like budgets and actual lawsuits and lead the national guard.

Again, I don't want Palin to be president and I'll never vote for her, but if you think President Obama is way more qualified for the job than she is, you're up in the night.

[frank ryan]

I'm sure he can. Again, I'm not defending Palin... being able to cite more Supreme Court cases than she can is not exactly impressive.



No, I would not. As I said above, Obama is better than Palin. Just not a whole lot better.



What news sources do you follow? Certain outlets had a field day whenever President Bush misspoke or tripped up, and now they ignore President Obama's gaffes. You can be forgiven for not being aware of the latter incidents. Let's go over a few of them.









I'm not saying President Obama is a moron, but he's had his share of dumb moments over the last year or so.



To sum up, President Obama graduated from Harvard law, taught law, and was a community organizer. How that supremely qualifies him to be president of the United States, I have no idea. There is no real world experience in there. At least Palin, as governor of a state, had to deal with things like budgets and actual lawsuits and lead the national guard.

Again, I don't want Palin to be president and I'll never vote for her, but if you think President Obama is way more qualified for the job than she is, you're up in the night.

To top it off Obama has had a microphone and the press in front of him 24/7 since elected and Palin hasn't. I suspect she would say the oddest of things were she president.

[Commando]

what's with all the rushing to Obama's defense?

[frank ryan]

what's with all the rushing to Obama's defense?

This thread wasn't meant to be about Obama. But I'll take the position he is much smarter than Palin anyday. Some self-disclosure I am one of those awful satanic socialists who voted for and likes Obama