Thank you board!

[MindfulCoug]

Mindful, do you really believe that the best and brightest Palestinian minds got together and concluded that the best way to end the blockade was to fire rockets from Gaza? That is silly. This is not a strategy that they remotely believe will do that. It is not the reason they are doing it. It is a strategy designed to escalate the conflict. Not even most of the Arab world has sympathy for Hamas.

Would you please find a single reason on the earth, why those corrupt Arab governments would have any sympathy with Palestinians and their leaders .The people are just nuisance in their eyes.I know you and i read some of your posts.I do expect you to embrace the reality on the ground .Do you really in your heart believe those Arab governments are on the people side ??

[Jeff Lebowski]

I am not sure what you hope I don't mean, your dudeliness. I am ready for this conflict to be over. I would rather they be able to talk this out, but from what I can tell in my 36 years of life, they are not going to be able to settle this peacefully.

Let me just add, I know Israel does not have clean hands in this. No one does when it comes to war. Eventually this will turn to a full on war. I am not advocating this, I am predicting this.

What I mean is, I hope you don't really mean that you don't care how it ends as long as it ends. It is exactly this kind of fatigue that allows Israel to frequently get away with murder.

[MindfulCoug]

Mindful, do you really believe that the best and brightest Palestinian minds got together and concluded that the best way to end the blockade was to fire rockets from Gaza? That is silly. This is not a strategy that they remotely believe will do that. It is not the reason they are doing it. It is a strategy designed to escalate the conflict. Not even most of the Arab world has sympathy for Hamas.

Its amazing to see how deliberately you choose to play down the main causes .Why would wholesome people in the middle east who are like you and I ,love to live want to practice radicalism and terrorism. What political and strategical elements would make people's lives so miserable to the point of producing crazy people who will finally do crazy things . You may want to read about Hamas top leaders .They are educated people, some of them have received their degree from the European countries .So no they are not dumb and crazy at the first place .Lets find what has made them leave easy lives and become easy targets for crazy Israeli war machine.

[tooblue]

Its amazing to see how deliebrately you choose to play down the main causes .Why would wholesome people in the middle east who are like you and I ,love to live would want to become radical and terrorist. What political and strategical elements would make people lives so miserable to the point of producing crazy people who will finally do crazy things . You may want to read about hamas top leaders .They are educated people, some of them have received their degree from the european countries .So no they are not dumb and crazy at the first place .Lets find what has made them leave easy lives and become easy targets for crazy Israeli war machine.

Does Israel have a right to exist? When Israel is granted the right to exist by countries such as Iran then a Palestinian State will have a right to exist in peace and prosperity.

[MindfulCoug]

Does Israel have a right to exist? When Israel is granted the right to exist by countries such as Iran then a Palestinian State will have a right to exist in peace and prosperity.

Not until their right of existence is being earned in the palestinians lives expense .

[tooblue]

Not until their right of existence is being earned in the palestinians lives expense .

So as long as Israel is subjugated they have a right to exist? Isn't that the fate of all infidels?

[Coach McGuirk]

This are the people who are willing to solve this problem out too . Just See how different your approaches are .

Sorry, I read this article and found no substantive solutions to this problem. Are you saying everyone protest and that will solve it? Even some protesters turned violent, so I am not sure they are the example we are looking for.

[SeattleUte]

Why is this complicated? Would it be any different for Canada if it started shooting missiles at U.S. cities?

[RobinFinderson]

Why is this complicated? Would it be any different for Canada if it started shooting missiles at U.S. cities?

Jackass.

[SeattleUte]

Jackass.

She asked why no condemnation. Who started the current conflict?

[Clark Addison]

My two cents: Hamas has SOMETHING coming (wtf? launching rockets indiscriminately into Israel?), but Israel's response has been so incredibly disproportionate that I have lost just about every bit of sympathy I might otherwise muster for them.

What do you think a proportionate, measured response would be? I ask this in seriousness, because I frankly do not know. Like many who have responded, I don't feel that I am smart enough, knowledgeable enough, or probably even adequately free of bias to have the answers to this. It's a mess, and I can find much to blame in all parties, but few solutions.

[ERCougar]

Stop meddling ?? you probably dont mean stop sending the F-16 and super modern tanks provided by your taxs?

I have no idea how involved we are in supporting the Israeli military. Apparently, very? This is why I posed the question--what's an appropriate response? Would you be happy if we just stopped "sending the F-16 and super modern tanks"? I kind of don't think so, but tell me. It sounds like you're advocating something stronger--something like a condemnation of Israel. It seems like that's asking a bit much.

That's the PR problem that Hamas is going to continually encounter. If they are, as you say, solely trying to secure rights for Palestinians, these kinds of measures turn reasonable Westerners off of their cause. I suspect UD's more correct than you're willing to admit.

[MindfulCoug]

I have no idea how involved we are in supporting the Israeli military. Apparently, very? This is why I posed the question--what's an appropriate response? Would you be happy if we just stopped "sending the F-16 and super modern tanks"? I kind of don't think so, but tell me. It sounds like you're advocating something stronger--something like a condemnation of Israel. It seems like that's asking a bit much.

That's the PR problem that Hamas is going to continually encounter. If they are, as you say, solely trying to secure rights for Palestinians, these kinds of measures turn reasonable Westerners off of their cause. I suspect UD's more correct than you're willing to admit.

Well..my most objective of starting the thread was ,witnessing the heavily silence practicing in here regarding the topic .you as an American and me as an Iranian need to know what our roles are in the most one-sided war on the earth as Israeli writer larry derfner has described it.

[MindfulCoug]

Why is this complicated? Would it be any different for Canada if it started shooting missiles at U.S. cities?

She asked why no condemnation. Who started the current conflict?

It is a plausible narrative, and there are shards of truth in it, but it is also filled with holes. Here is the johann Hari's story .

[MindfulCoug]

So as long as Israel is subjugated they have a right to exist? Isn't that the fate of all infidels?

Its striking coming from a voice of belief.

We do not know respected Jews who are following prophet Moses (peace be upon him) and living their precious religion ,as infidels ,if this is the case by the way.