Flu Shots

[taekwondave]

Are you serious? No, really, do you actually believe this or is this obvious
Troll trolling?

What do you mean, "believe it"? I don't have to "believe it". It's how I get rid of the flu, every time.

[taekwondave]

Aww you mean you're actually a paranoid tin-foil hatter? And to think I agreed with you about the dairy lobbyists.



Dude you sound like Charlie Sheen. This is some seriously insane stuff here.



Those two facts are not related any more than the facts that you are using the internet and wearing pants.

Haha. Charlie Sheen? I guess I need to get out more. So wait, you agree with me about dairy lobbyists, but suggesting that somebody makes money off of the flu vaccine makes me paranoid? That's a jump. And I suppose you still think there's such thing as a free lunch? Or does this flu vaccine grow on trees?

As for those two facts not being related, maybe not, but the number of times I got sick per year (maybe 3-4 times) when I DID eat meat and the number of times I get sick now (once every 2 years) is pretty convincing to me. But I'm talking to a guy that thinks flu vaccines come from magic rivers of abundance and not a soul stands to make any money off them.

Look folks, does throwing up when you're sick to make yourself feel better sound crazy to you? Obviously. But think back to when you've been sick and you happened to throw up. Did you not feel better afterwards? There's a connection there. It works like a charm for me. Take it for what it's worth to ya. I don't care.

[creekster]

What do you mean, "believe it"? I don't have to "believe it". It's how I get rid of the flu, every time.

Well, there's some quality critical thinking. And so you conclude by this discerning research that your approach is effective and should be used by everyone, even in lieu of a flu shot?

I cant believe you induced me to type that response. Good luck, buddy. Puke away!

[woot]

Haha. Charlie Sheen? I guess I need to get out more. So wait, you agree with me about dairy lobbyists, but suggesting that somebody makes money off of the flu vaccine makes me paranoid? That's a jump. And I suppose you still think there's such thing as a free lunch? Or does this flu vaccine grow on trees?

As for those two facts not being related, maybe not, but the number of times I got sick per year (maybe 3-4 times) when I DID eat meat and the number of times I get sick now (once every 2 years) is pretty convincing to me. But I'm talking to a guy that thinks flu vaccines come from magic rivers of abundance and not a soul stands to make any money off them.

Look folks, does throwing up when you're sick to make yourself feel better sound crazy to you? Obviously. But think back to when you've been sick and you happened to throw up. Did you not feel better afterwards? There's a connection there. It works like a charm for me. Take it for what it's worth to ya. I don't care.

[creekster]

Actually if you look back, I never once told ANYBODY to do this. I simply said the flu was no big deal to ME because I do this and it works. Feel free to get a flu shot. If it works, great. But I think this forum has provided us with a pretty decent microcosm for the widespread results that have been reported via word of mouth regarding it. Some people say it works for them (but nobody ever questions whether THEY'RE simply falling victim to the placebo effect), others say it makes them sick without fail, others say they don't notice any change, etc, etc. To me the flu shot doesn't sound all that promising. But if it works for you, great. I simply told you what I do that works for me. I even said I didn't think anybody else would be interested in trying it ("how many people want to puke and have diarrhea?") so please to don't put words in my mouth.

Good GRIEF, folks! Why the HATE??? Does it insult you so badly that I throw up when I get sick? This is very weird.

No one hates you, AFAIK. I know I don't. Assuming you have accurately reported your experince, I am rather surprised that you assert there is causation between your acts (puking, etc.) and your result. As ERcougar pointed out, the support for the efficacy of a flu shot is anecdotal in this forum, but it is joined in the real world by large scale studies. My guess is the Puking approach cannot claim such support. And, in my mind, there is a good reason why this is the case.

so if you dont urge others to do it, is this becaseu you think you are full of crap or becasue you think you are somehow unique? Are you suggesting the puking approach only works becasue of your abstinence from meat and dairy?

[EuropeanFootballMale]

Haha. Charlie Sheen? I guess I need to get out more. So wait, you agree with me about dairy lobbyists, but suggesting that somebody makes money off of the flu vaccine makes me paranoid? That's a jump. And I suppose you still think there's such thing as a free lunch? Or does this flu vaccine grow on trees?

As for those two facts not being related, maybe not, but the number of times I got sick per year (maybe 3-4 times) when I DID eat meat and the number of times I get sick now (once every 2 years) is pretty convincing to me. But I'm talking to a guy that thinks flu vaccines come from magic rivers of abundance and not a soul stands to make any money off them.

Look folks, does throwing up when you're sick to make yourself feel better sound crazy to you? Obviously. But think back to when you've been sick and you happened to throw up. Did you not feel better afterwards? There's a connection there. It works like a charm for me. Take it for what it's worth to ya. I don't care.

Give credit where credit is due. The neighbors dog told you all about this didn't he.

[EuropeanFootballMale]

Good GRIEF, folks! Why the HATE??? Does it insult you so badly that I throw up when I get sick? This is very weird.

It's mostly the scientific illiteracy. And it's more scary than insulting.

[taekwondave]

No one hates you, AFAIK. I know I don't. Assuming you have accurately reported your experince, I am rather surprised that you assert there is causation between your acts (puking, etc.) and your result. As ERcougar pointed out, the support for the efficacy of a flu shot is anecdotal in this forum, but it is joined in the real world by large scale studies. My guess is the Puking approach cannot claim such support. And, in my mind, there is a good reason why this is the case.

so if you dont urge others to do it, is this becaseu you think you are full of crap or becasue you think you are somehow unique? Are you suggesting the puking approach only works becasue of your abstinence from meat and dairy?

Wow. Was that so hard? Talking with a little respect? God.

In response:

I don't think people LIKE to throw up, so whether or not it would work, most people, like you, probably wouldn't do it. But I've done it, my family's done it, my girlfriend's done it, and it worked for all of us. Does that qualify for a scientific journal? No. But taking medicine or getting a shot is easy. Choosing to throw up is not.

I DO urge others to do it, but usually only after a day or so of intense suffering are they willing to try such a seemingly drastic measure. And while they hate me because of how the medicine I give them makes them feel before they vomit, they have all grudgingly admitted that it worked when they were done. But I never urged anybody else to do it until I had done it enough times myself that I was satisfied with the results. (It doesn't do anything for colds. I suspect because the infection there is mainly in the nasal cavity or something. I don't know. But I've tried and it just didn't work. Nor on sore throats. That's bad news.)

I am NOT suggesting that my approach works because of my diet. I am the only "vegan" in my family but it's worked for all of them. (But they still prefer drugs to dull the pain for the first twenty four hours, then succumb again to the reality of the effectiveness of the procedure.)

[taekwondave]

It's mostly the scientific illiteracy. And it's more scary than insulting.

Oh sorry, Doc.

[taekwondave]

Give credit where credit is due. The neighbors dog told you all about this didn't he.

You know, despite you trying to be such a wise-ass right now, you actually just provided some decent evidence of my claim. Animals DO do that, don't they?

[ERCougar]

You know, despite you trying to be such a wise-ass right now, you actually just provided some decent evidence of my claim. Animals DO do that, don't they?

Animals also eat their own feces. Maybe you should try that.

If you ate the flu, your approach might make some sense. If the flu infected the GI tract, your approach might make some sense. As it is, induced vomiting makes no more sense as a cure for the flu than it does as a remedy for a broken arm.

But really, I don't care what you do, and if it works for you, then you shouldn't care what anyone else thinks about what you do. As for the hate thing, I've actually found your posts interesting elsewhere and not nearly as nutty, so I hope you stick around.

[taekwondave]

Animals also eat their own feces. Maybe you should try that.

zing! got me again...

[creekster]

Maybe you are just confusing the flu with food poisoning. That would explain it all.

[taekwondave]

Maybe you are just confusing the flu with food poisoning. That would explain it all.

You know what? It would. Maybe in the last six years I've never gotten the flu. (No shots.) Maybe it was always food poisoning. I'm not closed off to that possibility.

[EuropeanFootballMale]

zing! got me again...

Of course you don't eat your own shit. Then what would you rub on the wall?

PS - your lunatic ramblings are getting about as much respect as they deserve

PPS - Does your magical FLU remedy have the SIDE effect of causing you to randomly CAPITALIZE words?