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  • Just got back from a 4 day stay up in Brian Head. Yeah, it's only 35 mins away, but we wanted to get away for a few days and with the Vegas economy so down, rentals are so cheap that our stay was essentially free, given that we got Freedom passes thrown in.

    A couple of things:
    1) The Kids' Camp is a fantastic deal--even worth coming down from SLC. $105 got our kids four hours of essentially private instruction (with one hour lunch break in the middle), rentals, and lunch. We've never taken our kids skiing and I honestly was kind of dreading teaching them. The instructors were outstanding--after two days, all three are pretty independent on skis.
    2) Brian Head is just a great resort. It's no Alta, but there are never any lines and still plenty of fun stuff to ski.
    3) To the skiers: How do you ski? My son's snowboard instructor said to him "your dad's a sweet old-school skier!" I skied a lot growing up but have only skied a handful of times in the last 5-10 years, so I wasn't aware there was a "new" school. When my son mentioned this, I asked my daughter's teacher and she said that with the newer style of skis, they teach shoulder width skiing now, kind of discouraging "ankles together". But how do you ski moguls like this? She said, "well, you mogul skiing is different."
    4) I hate snowboarders. All of them.
    5) Why do snowboarders spend so much time sitting and watching each other? Why the heck can't they figure out that the middle of a run is not the place to carve a long turn across the slope and/or stop? I almost had full speed collisions with two of these clowns, who likely couldn't hear me over their $150 headphones.

    6) My wife's right: I'm getting old and grumpy.
    Last edited by ERCougar; 12-09-2011, 07:10 AM.
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    • That is my peeve with boarders. They sit down in the middle of a run and sprawl out in a group. I often carve near them and spray them a bit with snow when I can.
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      • Also, was it $105 per kid or total? Sounds like that could be a fun road trip. the snow up here allegedly blows right now.
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        • Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
          Also, was it $105 per kid or total? Sounds like that could be a fun road trip. the snow up here allegedly blows right now.
          $105 per. But that includes lift ticket, equipment, and instruction.

          Theres not much open yet, but still fun. snow quality was p outstanding (although that obviously various by the day),-just need more.
          At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
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          • I love Brian Head. If I needed to go to St. George or Vegas I'd usually wake up early and get in a day at BH. I think it's a fun resort. They were on top of the terrain park trend long before the bigger resorts up north.

            I started skiing when I was four. My father learned to ski in Europe when he was in the military so he supported my skiing habit. We lived five minutes from the mouth of Big Cottonwood very close to the bus route so if Dad didn't want to go I could get up the mountain easily.

            I took up snowboarding in my early teens (my first board was a Burton Backhill) before boards were allowed at any resort. My family we woulds take two or three snowmobile trips a year and I'd take my board along. All day freshies were the norm when you have a snowmobile to haul you to the top. I was too dumb to know it back then but this is a good way to get killed in an avalanche.

            There was a time in my early twenties where I switched to boarding full time because of bad knees. This was prior to the shaped ski revolution and skiing 205's just wasn't such a great idea. I switched back to skiing when shaped skis were perfected. The shorter length and the enhanced carving ability made things safer for the knees. Now I rock the same pair of Rossi Bandit XX mid-fats that I've had for several years. They are the best all-around ski I've ever ridden and I rue the day I have to replace them.

            I still love to board on deep powder days. There's nothing quite like carving up a slope with three feet of freshies. It's like your floating on a cloud and really is quite a beautiful experience. Powder skiing is great but it's a lot of work. Fatter skis have taken some of the work out of skiing powder. Since I will be able to ski this season for the first time in three years I've resolved to buy myself some fatties and try to reconnect with powder skiing.

            Bump skiing has changed for two reasons: 1. Snowboarders screw up moguls. 2. A lot of people are skiing mid-fats which are great for all-mountain skiing but tend to suck in the bumps. My bump skiing days are long gone anyway so no big deal.

            My biggest problem with snowboarders is that most were never really brought up knowing proper mountain etiquette. When you get after one for doing something stupid they just ignore you because you are a stodgy old-school skier. For the record my favorite method of dealing with boarders who cut you off or run over or tips is to chase them down and whack them with a ski pole. Borderline assault but done properly it can get the point across.

            I love to ski and board but other than powder days my preference has always been skiing.

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            • Sorry about that last post. I'm passionate about skiing and love writing or talking about it.

              I need new boots this year. I will go to a boot fitter and have then custom fit. Does anyone have any suggestions? I have wide feet so something made on a wide last is a must.

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              • Originally posted by Shaka View Post
                Sorry about that last post. I'm passionate about skiing and love writing or talking about it.

                I need new boots this year. I will go to a boot fitter and have then custom fit. Does anyone have any suggestions? I have wide feet so something made on a wide last is a must.
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                • I read last week that Warren Miller lives in the San Juan Islands. Had no idea. Used to watch his films all the time when I was a kid. Watching one of those things in the summer was pure torture.
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                  • Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                    That is my peeve with boarders. They sit down in the middle of a run and sprawl out in a group. I often carve near them and spray them a bit with snow when I can.
                    That's because they can't stand in a large group leaning on their ski poles.
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                    • Looking for advice on purchasing a huge rack (not THAT, sickos! Im talking about ski racks).

                      Yakima FatCat 6 or Thule Universal Flat 6.

                      Any preference one way or the other? I am leaning towards the FatCats right now but havent decided one way or the other.
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                      • Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                        Looking for advice on purchasing a huge rack (not THAT, sickos! Im talking about ski racks).

                        Yakima FatCat 6 or Thule Universal Flat 6.

                        Any preference one way or the other? I am leaning towards the FatCats right now but havent decided one way or the other.
                        I prefer the square load bars on the Thule. Also last time I checked there were other companies (Barrecrafters) that made Thule compatible stuff. I do not know if this is currently the case.

                        Either way you go you will get a good rack.

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                        • Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                          Looking for advice on purchasing a huge rack (not THAT, sickos! Im talking about ski racks).

                          Yakima FatCat 6 or Thule Universal Flat 6.

                          Any preference one way or the other? I am leaning towards the FatCats right now but havent decided one way or the other.
                          We have a Yakima rack system, and really like it. For skis we use the Powderhound 6, which has worked well. My only complaint is the connection between the rack and the rails. I would like it to be a quick connect instead of the bolts. Maybe it has to be that way for security. Don't know how Thule compares. We go between a carrier in the spring-fall, which is easy to take on and off, and ski rack in the winter. Having a low garage with an SUV makes putting skis on challenging. For the last couple of years I have splurged for a locker at Snowbird - I've been pretty happy with that arrangement so far.
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                          • Originally posted by hostile View Post
                            We have a Yakima rack system, and really like it. For skis we use the Powderhound 6, which has worked well. My only complaint is the connection between the rack and the rails. I would like it to be a quick connect instead of the bolts. Maybe it has to be that way for security. Don't know how Thule compares. We go between a carrier in the spring-fall, which is easy to take on and off, and ski rack in the winter. Having a low garage with an SUV makes putting skis on challenging. For the last couple of years I have splurged for a locker at Snowbird - I've been pretty happy with that arrangement so far.
                            Yakima is somewhat notorious for being a more complicated install, but the reason being is exactly as you state....anti theft. Makes it very tough to steal the racks themselves. I saw the powder hound but is it universal? I'm using factory crossbars and rails so I would rather not have to buy a fit kit if I don't have to.

                            I will check out the racks Shaka mentioned. I should do more homework, I suppose.
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                            • Originally posted by Shaka View Post
                              Sorry about that last post. I'm passionate about skiing and love writing or talking about it.

                              I need new boots this year. I will go to a boot fitter and have then custom fit. Does anyone have any suggestions? I have wide feet so something made on a wide last is a must.
                              Yes! Go to Daleboot and get them to make you a custom set. I guarantee you will walk away with the greatest set of boots you ever wore. Of course you will pay for them... Someday I will own a custom set of Daleboot boots for the winter and a custom-made Goode Waterski for summer.

                              There is a boot fitter at Resort Center in Park City Mountain Resort who works magic with the foam fitting boot liners. I can't recall the name but he fitted the boots I currently own, and the still fit perfectly after more than a dozen years (I haven't been skiing much since I got married and quit teaching).

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                              • Originally posted by NorthwestUteFan View Post
                                Yes! Go to Daleboot and get them to make you a custom set. I guarantee you will walk away with the greatest set of boots you ever wore. Of course you will pay for them... Someday I will own a custom set of Daleboot boots for the winter and a custom-made Goode Waterski for summer.

                                There is a boot fitter at Resort Center in Park City Mountain Resort who works magic with the foam fitting boot liners. I can't recall the name but he fitted the boots I currently own, and the still fit perfectly after more than a dozen years (I haven't been skiing much since I got married and quit teaching).
                                I'm considering Daleboot. Great because they are local and it's easy to get fit. I haven't checked into them for a few years but it seemed like they haven't changed much regarding design in many years. Of course ski boots haven't changed all that much since I was a kid. I have one other fit criteria that I forgot to mention. I wear custom knee braces on both legs. Boot has to fit under the braces or I have to buy new braces.

                                I know who you're talking about in PC. He's fitted many of my friends. There is also a good boot fitter at Snowbird. For the life of me I can't remember the name of the shops.

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