Whistleblower - Ensign Peak Advisors

[tooblue]

The optics of this are terrible, and not just for people who buy into Matt. 6:19.

How many members of your Stake or Ward receive bi-monthly food assistance from your local Bishop's store house? How many members of your congregation (youth and adults) has your Bishop sent to meet with counsellors working for LDS social services and the salary of the counsellor is paid for by the church at no cost to the member?

[tooblue]

No, it does not. That is part of the churches infrastructure that must be maintained annually, in addition to its buildings etc. The infrastructure includes services such as:

Bishops' Storehouses
Development Counseling Services
Home Storage Centers
Immigrant Services
Family Services
Self-Reliance Services

https://providentliving.churchofjesu....org/?lang=eng

40 or 60 million goes to other entities with their own infrastructure.

Further, how does the church even have the resources to share with say the NAACP?

https://naacp.org/latest/ldschurch/

What exactly does any one here think the NAACP is getting access to ...

"At a series of meetings and presentations held with members of the NAACP board of directors and senior staff along with general authorities of the Church and various Church department representatives, the two groups advanced conversations and efforts on their education and employment initiative that the Church and the NAACP have undertaken as a joint venture. The two groups worked on ways to customize the Church’s self-reliance services materials and programs to be most effective for the initiative."

[tooblue]

Does that include aid to poor church members and domestic aid?

No, it does not. That is part of the churches infrastructure that must be maintained annually, in addition to its buildings etc. The infrastructure includes services such as:

Bishops' Storehouses
Development Counseling Services
Home Storage Centers
Immigrant Services
Family Services
Self-Reliance Services

https://providentliving.churchofjesu....org/?lang=eng

40 or 60 million goes to other entities with their own infrastructure.

[Sleeping in EQ]

The optics of this are terrible, and not just for people who buy into Matt. 6:19.

[Jeff Lebowski]

40mm was cited in the WaPo article, but I believe ive read 60mm In different articles on church humanitarian aid.

Does that include aid to poor church members and domestic aid?

[wally]

This article is a heads-up not to go on facebook for a while.... but I did anyway. All of my predictions were accurate. One guy I know even had a great 'zinger.' Went something like this: "Follow the Profit!" Have any of you ever seen that one?! Very witty because instead of spelling it as "Prophet" they spelled it as "Profit." Such smart humor!

[Green Monstah]

Where does that 60 million number come from? I ask because I’ve heard that vastly different amounts quoted over the last few days and prior to that.

40mm was cited in the WaPo article, but I believe ive read 60mm In different articles on church humanitarian aid.

[Uncle Ted]

My issue: there is so much good that could be done by utilizing the income from $100B. $60mm per year seems woefully low in humanitarian aid when you can make over 100x that annually in new excess tithes and interest earned.

Yeah, the saints in Utah got a new mall... we could use another one of those in Texas too.

[MartyFunkhouser]

Where does that 60 million number come from? I ask because I’ve heard that vastly different amounts quoted over the last few days and prior to that.

Isn't that number from the church? I know that Oaks in 2016 said the church spends 40 million in humanitarian aid, so the number seems about right.

I tend to agree that there is nothing really to see here. You can argue that the church should do more, but I don't see anything inherently wrong with stockpiling money. I do wonder why missionaries are paying to serve though with all the wealth accumulated. It seems like the donation of time should be sufficient.

[Jeff Lebowski]

My issue: there is so much good that could be done by utilizing the income from $100B. $60mm per year seems woefully low in humanitarian aid when you can make over 100x that annually in new excess tithes and interest earned.

Where does that 60 million number come from? I ask because I’ve heard that vastly different amounts quoted over the last few days and prior to that.

[Green Monstah]

My issue: there is so much good that could be done by utilizing the income from $100B. $60mm per year seems woefully low in humanitarian aid when you can make over 100x that annually in new excess tithes and interest earned.

[BigFatMeanie]

I know someone who runs a a charitable foundation with a few hundred million in assets. The foundation has to distribute 5% of its total assets annually to maintain its tax exempt status. I would assume the same principle applies to the church fund.


This feels like someone looking for a winning lottery ticket.

The 5% rule is for private foundations. A religious organization is not subject to that rule.

[All-American]

Forbes says “Nothing to see here, folks.”

Seriously. That’s a subheading.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterjr.../#68a6119c5d5b

[Jeff Lebowski]

Did anyone notice what the guy used as the title of his complaint?

"Letter to an IRS Director"

[Uncle Ted]

Church issues response:

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist...hurch-finances

Over many years, a portion is methodically safeguarded through wise financial management and the building of a prudent reserve for the future.

Yeah, seems like a good plan to me... They say the wicked will be burned as if in an oven in the last days but those that pay a full tithing will be lifted up and will not be burned. In other words the full tithe payers will get a seat on one of the church's rockets that will take us into space while global warming cooks the wicked back on Earth. But those rockets that will take the good folks to Kolob are not going to build themselves, just like Noah's boat. I am not sure if $100b is going to be enough to get us to Kolob, however. Maybe the Lord will reveal warp drive for our rocket ships. That would be nice.