The CES Letter

[Goatnapper'96]

This could be a "pull back the curtain moment" but I doubt it will have any effect. My old HP group leader believed that Christ and TSM had regular face to face meetings, he won't ever see this so it won't sway him. The ones who are already gone are the ones who will watch it and just feel a little better about the direction they chose. The church better be careful and maybe even more transparent because everything could come out. If the financials ever came out that could freak a few people.

I was really shaken up that 94 yr old Elder Boyd K. Packer was doing the "bob and travel" with his head during a briefing on cybersecurity!

[taekwondave]

This could be a "pull back the curtain moment" but I doubt it will have any effect. My old HP group leader believed that Christ and TSM had regular face to face meetings, he won't ever see this so it won't sway him. The ones who are already gone are the ones who will watch it and just feel a little better about the direction they chose. The church better be careful and maybe even more transparent because everything could come out. If the financials ever came out that could freak a few people.

Well...here's the thing. Rarely does any ONE THING have a perceptible effect on Mormon conviction (what they call testimony). But you never know what will be the straw to break the camel's back, or what will be the first think that makes a Mormon go "hmmm..." and thus gets them poking around on the internet for more things that make them go "hmmmm..." This could easily be either of those things.

All religions are losing people right now. The LDS church is no different and isn't any more successful, it would seem, at stopping the bleeding than anyone else. People are starting to realize that these organizations aren't run by God and that God probably doesn't even really exist. Instead, like many here on CS, people are starting to ask themselves what value their churches provide despite those facts. If they find enough value otherwise they seem to have a chance at staying, if not, they take up water skiing.

[taekwondave]

These arent meetings in the temple, correct? Just some old admin meetings?

Do you suspect something more impressive happens in temple meetings?

[old_gregg]

Well...here's the thing. Rarely does any ONE THING have a perceptible effect on Mormon conviction (what they call testimony). But you never know what will be the straw to break the camel's back, or what will be the first think that makes a Mormon go "hmmm..." and thus gets them poking around on the internet for more things that make them go "hmmmm..." This could easily be either of those things.

All religions are losing people right now. The LDS church is no different and isn't any more successful, it would seem, at stopping the bleeding than anyone else. People are starting to realize that these organizations aren't run by God and that God probably doesn't even really exist. Instead, like many here on CS, people are starting to ask themselves what value their churches provide despite those facts. If they find enough value otherwise they seem to have a chance at staying, if not, they take up water skiing.

you are right, i guess i'd never thought of it that way before

[smokymountainrain]

hehe

[creekster]

All religions are losing people right now. The LDS church is no different and isn't any more successful, it would seem, at stopping the bleeding than anyone else. People are starting to realize that these organizations aren't run by God and that God probably doesn't even really exist. Instead, like many here on CS, people are starting to ask themselves what value their churches provide despite those facts. If they find enough value otherwise they seem to have a chance at staying, if not, they take up water skiing.

Your innocent cynicism is very entertaining.

[Walter Sobchak]

you are right, i guess i'd never thought of it that way before

Probably because no one water skis anymore.

[Moliere]

Probably because no one water skis anymore.

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[taekwondave]

Your innocent cynicism is very entertaining.

I do what I can