The CES Letter

[imanihonjin]

Ha. A good friend of mine recently became area counsel for the church. I had no idea (and afaik neither did he) that this info was secret.

My bro is an area legal counsel. He and all of the other area legal counsel usually attend the annual J. Reuben Clark Law Society meetings and have even presented at this meetings to discuss the variety of issues they handle as area legal counsel. I have attended these meeting previously as well. If this was meant to be kept a secret, it is the worst kept secret ever.

[taekwondave]

That leak was lame. The church is so boring.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

Hopefully they expose the dress code standard that requires everyone to wear a white shirt and suit.


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Um, that isn't a thing.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

That leak was lame. The church is so boring.

Yikes, what does that make the people who went to the effort to leak it?

[creekster]

the exmormon subreddit has itself all worked up over somebody leaking a bunch of hr manuals, calling them "smoking guns." lol. how dumb is the bulk of the exmormon crowd?

I went to reddit to check this out. All kidding aside, what is the big deal? I plowed through as much as I could stand and didnt see anything that seemed remotely damning or surprising. Although I did learn my friend is an associate area counsel and not area counsel.

SO what is the big deal? IS there something?

[Maximus]

I went to reddit to check this out. All kidding aside, what is the big deal? I plowed through as much as I could stand and didnt see anything that seemed remotely damning or surprising. Although I did learn my friend is an associate area counsel and not area counsel.

SO what is the big deal? IS there something?

apparently a document on which countries were more risky or which countries the church needs to focus on developing relationships with was damning because it shows how the church is manipulating countries to fit their cult...or something

[taekwondave]

Yikes, what does that make the people who went to the effort to leak it?

Disenfranchised from their tribe.

[taekwondave]

I went to reddit to check this out. All kidding aside, what is the big deal? I plowed through as much as I could stand and didnt see anything that seemed remotely damning or surprising. Although I did learn my friend is an associate area counsel and not area counsel.

SO what is the big deal? IS there something?

There's nothing. The previous leak was much better (where it outlines how the mission president reimbursement system works and the policy regarding children of gay couples). If there's any residual excitement from this one it's over the fact that perhaps the church isn't as hard to hack into as once believed, and that gives some hope that someday they'll be able to see the church's actual financials. That, many believe, will help more people leave the church. I don't personally think that information would end up having that big of an impact, but that's the vibe I get over there.

[Moliere]

http://kutv.com/news/local/watch-leaked-videos-show-briefings-of-lds-leadership

Who from CS is willing to watch all of these and let us know the juicy details?

[Jeff Lebowski]

http://kutv.com/news/local/watch-lea...lds-leadership

Who from CS is willing to watch all of these and let us know the juicy details?

You should do it. Material for a dozen podcasts at least.

[San Juan Sun]

You should do it. Material for a dozen podcasts at least.

LOL. I love this joke.

I watched the one where they watch the Pirates of the Caribbean clip. Boyd K Packer did not look amused.

[Commando]

http://kutv.com/news/local/watch-lea...lds-leadership

Who from CS is willing to watch all of these and let us know the juicy details?

Basically just informational briefings keeping leadership up to date on stuff. Nothing to see here. "leaked footage"

[Uncle Ted]

I watch the one on marijuana... They said the church has no position on the use of medical marijuana. I wonder if that includes "over-the-counter" medical marijuana.

[PaloAltoCougar]

The article could use some editing. The GA in the picture is Gerrit Gong, not Wong.

[Uncle Ted]

Summaries of the posted videos: http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8...h-leaders.html

I like this one... Gordon Smith, former United States Senator from Oregon who served from 1997 to 2009.

In October 2002, Senator Smith voted to authorize military force against Iraq. Smith said he voted for the Iraq War, in part, to spread the gospel. "I felt the Lord's hand in it." Quoting the late President Gordon B. Hinckley, he said, "Our missionaries always follow in the footsteps of soldiers."