Tithing and Tithing Settlement

[Surfah]

The idea that some kid without kids could offer me some advice on what my family needed is a joke. I have my friends and family and that is who I would turn to for help. They are playing their part in the quorum presidency and i understand that but really it's such a waste of time for me.

Despite the fact that it may be wasting your time, I think there are blessings that you could be denying yourself and this young man from serving you.

[LiveCoug]

Do the hybrid approach that I did this year. Just tell your Bishop during the block that you are in compliance (or whatever the case may be) and be done with it.

The other thing about T-Sett....it is always in December. Why would the Bishop want to spend every waking hour of every Sunday in December at the Chapel instead of at home with his family? I don't require his services, so why add to his workload?

I shall attempt that this Sunday.

[RC Vikings]

Despite the fact that it may be wasting your time, I think there are blessings that you could be denying yourself and this young man from serving you.

I'll try to do better. I get in a shitty mood when I can't ride or golf after work and it's hitting me hard today. I'll be better come April.

[LA Ute]

Traditionalists will tell you that it is a time to counsel with your judge in Israel, teach children by example, declare your worthiness for at least a portion of your temple recommend, and ensure that proper and accurate records are kept at the Church.

I accept Brother Triplet Daddy's description above, which I guess makes me a traditionalist. But someone's got to fill that role, and it might as well be me.

Because of (1) the shortage of decent prieshood leadership in the two wards I have lived in as a married adult, and (2) the resulting desperation of the local leaders, I am now serving in a bishopric for the eighth time (I think it's eight, anyway. I can't be bishop because I went to the U. after transferring from the Y. Some things are just disqualifications for Bishophood, I guess.) So I've counted a lot of tithing money and have seen a lot of tithing settlements. I have very warm feelings about the whole thing. It's touching an inspiring to see what people do to keep that commandment. But I am just a sentimental old fool, I guess. I know you won't hold that against me. Well, maybe Palo Alto will, but I've come to expect that.

[cougarobgon]

I accept Brother Triplet Daddy's description above, which I guess makes me a traditionalist. But someone's got to fill that role, and it might as well be me.

Because of (1) the shortage of decent prieshood leadership in the two wards I have lived in as a married adult, and (2) the resulting desperation of the local leaders, I am now serving in a bishopric for the eighth time (I think it's eight, anyway. I can't be bishop because I went to the U. after transferring from the Y. Some things are just disqualifications for Bishophood, I guess.) So I've counted a lot of tithing money and have seen a lot of tithing settlements. I have very warm feelings about the whole thing. It's touching an inspiring to see what people do to keep that commandment. But I am just a sentimental old fool, I guess. I know you won't hold that against me. Well, maybe Palo Alto will, but I've come to expect that.

The main reason I enjoyed tithing settlement was the visits I had with members who for the most part rarely had the opportunity to visit with in a private setting. The declaration of one's tithing status lasted maybe 15 seconds, the remaining 10-15 minutes was spent visiting with good people. I enjoyed the visits very much.

[TripletDaddy]

I accept Brother Triplet Daddy's description above, which I guess makes me a traditionalist. But someone's got to fill that role, and it might as well be me.

Because of (1) the shortage of decent prieshood leadership in the two wards I have lived in as a married adult, and (2) the resulting desperation of the local leaders, I am now serving in a bishopric for the eighth time (I think it's eight, anyway. I can't be bishop because I went to the U. after transferring from the Y. Some things are just disqualifications for Bishophood, I guess.) So I've counted a lot of tithing money and have seen a lot of tithing settlements. I have very warm feelings about the whole thing. It's touching an inspiring to see what people do to keep that commandment. But I am just a sentimental old fool, I guess. I know you won't hold that against me. Well, maybe Palo Alto will, but I've come to expect that.

Keep in mind, Louisiana Ute, that mine was an attempt to decribe the different camps, not really judge them.

Truthfully, my behavior falls into the traditionalist camp. I go every year.

This year I channeled my inner SeattleUte and decided to buck convention. My drive-through approach to T-Sett is going to pioneer new advancements in the fields of time management and superfluous Church gatherings.

I think I will discuss my ideas at this week's YM Presidency meeting, midweek at the chapel for 45 minutes to talk about stuff that we could easily talk about either on the phone, via email, or on Sunday for 10 minutes.

Either that, or I will tell my home teachees. Granted, I was just there last week for November, but I am sure a lot will have transpired by the time I go there next Sunday for December.

Yougottawanna!

[TripletDaddy]

The main reason I enjoyed tithing settlement was the visits I had with members who for the most part rarely had the opportunity to visit with in a private setting. The declaration of one's tithing status lasted maybe 15 seconds, the remaining 10-15 minutes was spent visiting with good people. I enjoyed the visits very much.

This is why I didnt go this year. It finally dawned on me that, other than the sociality, there was no practical reason for me to go. I am a full tithe payer. I have nothing else to say to the Bishop on that matter. So in an effort to not make it look like a total waste of time, we all sit there for a few minutes chatting.

I agree that for others it is great because they get face time with the Bishop. I am with the Bishop every week during the third hour. We know each other already.

[PaloAltoCougar]

But I am just a sentimental old fool, I guess. I know you won't hold that against me. Well, maybe Palo Alto will, but I've come to expect that.

Quoth Bette Davis in All About Eve, "I detest cheap sentiment." But at Christmastime, and pretty much anything involving family, I'm willing to make exceptions and let a few tears flow. Like cougarobgon, I really enjoyed the tithing settlement interviews, and for several reasons. First, nearly everyone who drops in wants to be there, unlike a lot of other interviews I had to conduct. It was a chance to meet with people in a private setting that wouldn't happen otherwise. I was often deeply moved by the sacrifices of others who had nothing to spare, but found joy in donating.

Now, sitting on the other side of the bishop's desk, I enjoyed meeting our new bishop this past week, watching the last of our six kids fork over his dough and surprising me with his answer when asked by the bishop why he paid tithing.

I have a very strong testimony of tithing, and believe everyone should pay it, LDS or not, to whatever payee(s) the payor sincerely believes will serve the purposes of our creator and the betterment of mankind.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

How does that work? Do you buy stock and then just give it to the church at the end of year for example. Lets say you make 120k a year which translates into 1k of tithing every month.

Do you buy stock with that 1k and if it loses value still give the stock over to the church?

What happens if it gains value??

I give stock that has an unrealized gain, therefore I can give the money to the church without paying the capital gain tax. The church can pay it without the tax. There isn't much reason to do it if the stock has lost value, one would be better to sell the stock at a loss and then pay cash to the church.

In your example of $120 a year I would donate $12,000 worth of stock in April.

[TripletDaddy]

Quoth Bette Davis in All About Eve, "I detest cheap sentiment." But at Christmastime, and pretty much anything involving family, I'm willing to make exceptions and let a few tears flow. Like cougarobgon, I really enjoyed the tithing settlement interviews, and for several reasons. First, nearly everyone who drops in wants to be there, unlike a lot of other interviews I had to conduct. It was a chance to meet with people in a private setting that wouldn't happen otherwise. I was often deeply moved by the sacrifices of others who had nothing to spare, but found joy in donating.

Now, sitting on the other side of the bishop's desk, I enjoyed meeting our new bishop this past week, watching the last of our six kids fork over his dough and surprising me with his answer when asked by the bishop why he paid tithing.

I have a very strong testimony of tithing, and believe everyone should pay it, LDS or not, to whatever payee(s) the payor sincerely believes will serve the purposes of our creator and the betterment of mankind.

You're maudlin and full of self-pity. You're magnificent!

[PaloAltoCougar]

I have a very strong testimony of tithing, and believe everyone should pay it, LDS or not, to whatever payee(s) the payor sincerely believes will serve the purposes of our creator and the betterment of mankind.

I really ought to read my posts before hitting the "Submit" button. This sounds like I'm running for office, and not an ecclesiastical one, either. I apologize for the triteness. Does it matter that I really do believe this? At least this gave me a chance to quote myself, even if the quoted material is lame.

[PaloAltoCougar]

You're maudlin and full of self-pity. You're magnificent!

I envision DDD in full general's uniform declaring, "PAC, you magnificent bastard! I read your POST!!!" I thank you.

[TripletDaddy]

I envision DDD in full general's uniform declaring, "PAC, you magnificent bastard! I read your POST!!!" I thank you.

PAC, there are particular aspects of my life to which I would like to maintain sole and exclusive rights and priveleges. For example: You!

ps Is AAE one of the best movies ever made? Maybe not, but it comes awfully close.

[byu71]

Quoth Bette Davis in All About Eve, "I detest cheap sentiment." But at Christmastime, and pretty much anything involving family, I'm willing to make exceptions and let a few tears flow. Like cougarobgon, I really enjoyed the tithing settlement interviews, and for several reasons. First, nearly everyone who drops in wants to be there, unlike a lot of other interviews I had to conduct. It was a chance to meet with people in a private setting that wouldn't happen otherwise. I was often deeply moved by the sacrifices of others who had nothing to spare, but found joy in donating.

Now, sitting on the other side of the bishop's desk, I enjoyed meeting our new bishop this past week, watching the last of our six kids fork over his dough and surprising me with his answer when asked by the bishop why he paid tithing.

I have a very strong testimony of tithing, and believe everyone should pay it, LDS or not, to whatever payee(s) the payor sincerely believes will serve the purposes of our creator and the betterment of mankind.

A great book on making and accumulating wealth is the "Richest Man in Babylon". The book suggests setting aside 10% and giving it to charity and therefor supports your contention "everyone should pay it".

I pay mine 2 years at a time. In other words every other year. I do so for tax purposes. Otherwise I wouldn't get the full benefit of the contribution allowance on the itemized deduction schedule.

[Clark Addison]

I pay my tithing in stock options in my own company. If I ever make it big, the Church will have a huge windfall.