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  • Moliere
    One man.....one pie
    • Oct 2009
    • 27790

    #76
    Originally posted by pellegrino View Post
    Why are you upset about this? Does this mean that all contribution numbers will be sent back to local authorities? I didn't see that in the press release.
    I'm mad that they are rolling it out slowly. They should just make it available to everyone now.
    "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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    • Omaha 680
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 11167

      #77
      The Church’s Finance and Records Department says the initial site not only demonstrated a simplified donation process for members, but also showed that this new approach reduced the load on local leaders and clerks charged with processing donations.
      It's good they needed to test the site to realize this. Obviously there are other benefits, but everyone should use it for this reason alone.

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      • pellegrino
        miserere me
        • Jan 2009
        • 12100

        #78
        Originally posted by Moliere View Post
        I'm mad that they are rolling it out slowly. They should just make it available to everyone now.
        it's their version of beta testing.
        Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
        God forgives many things for an act of mercy
        Alessandro Manzoni

        Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.

        pelagius

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        • chrisrenrut
          Strikes and Gutters
          • Jul 2009
          • 2259

          #79
          Originally posted by pellegrino View Post
          it's their version of beta testing.
          It's already been beta tested. The phased rollout is probably for load testing. When they rolled out the family search website, the system was overwhelmed when they rolled out to the Wasatch front. Hopefully they have learned their lesson. I'll bet this is very popular with members under 60, except for preppers that still pay everything in cash.
          Last edited by chrisrenrut; 04-29-2015, 08:32 PM.

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          • PaloAltoCougar
            Semper infra dignitatem
            • Nov 2008
            • 16912

            #80
            Too bad they won't permit payment via credit card; it'd be nice to get the miles.

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            • SandYFan
              Junior Member
              • May 2013
              • 754

              #81
              :clap:

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              • chrisrenrut
                Strikes and Gutters
                • Jul 2009
                • 2259

                #82
                A letter from church HQ announced that tithing settlement can begin on October 15th.

                The bitching and avoidance can start early this year. It's a Columbus Day miracle!
                Last edited by chrisrenrut; 09-24-2015, 08:39 PM.

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                • LVAllen
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 3222

                  #83
                  Originally posted by chrisrenrut View Post
                  A letter from church HQ announced that tithing settlement can begin on October 15th.

                  The bitching and avoidance can start early this year. It's a Columbus Day miracle!
                  The tithing settlement process always began 10/15. Tithing settlement itself typically began a month later. Did the letter say to begin interviews that early?

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                  • chrisrenrut
                    Strikes and Gutters
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 2259

                    #84
                    Originally posted by LVAllen View Post
                    The tithing settlement process always began 10/15. Tithing settlement itself typically began a month later. Did the letter say to begin interviews that early?
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                    • Moliere
                      One man.....one pie
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 27790

                      #85
                      I remember bishops always being able to start it as early as October, but none of them do. Probably because most people feel an obligation to have paid their annual tithing amount before declaring.

                      Why didn't they rollout a tithing declaration check box with the new online payment system? Could have saved people a ton of time.
                      "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                      • chrisrenrut
                        Strikes and Gutters
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 2259

                        #86
                        Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                        I remember bishops always being able to start it as early as October, but none of them do. Probably because most people feel an obligation to have paid their annual tithing amount before declaring.

                        Why didn't they rollout a tithing declaration check box with the new online payment system? Could have saved people a ton of time.
                        The last 2 years, instructions said not to start any earlier than Nov 15th.

                        I completely agree with your 2nd point.

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                        • LVAllen
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 3222

                          #87
                          Originally posted by chrisrenrut View Post
                          The last 2 years, instructions said not to start any earlier than Nov 15th.

                          I completely agree with your 2nd point.
                          I was a finance clerk from 2008-13. The same instructions were used every year, and every year the interviews started on Nov. 15th. Originally, the Year-to-date donation records were to be distributed a month before TS, but that was eventually changed to a week before. Not like anyone ever actually reviewed them before TS anyway, though.

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                          • Clark Addison
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 10288

                            #88
                            New clerk and Exec Sec this year in the ward. One week left and no one has yet called us to schedule an appointment!

                            I'll be playing basketball with the bishop Wednesday night, and I usually guard him, so maybe I will just give him my report during a lengthy half-court set.

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                            • Moliere
                              One man.....one pie
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 27790

                              #89
                              Bump, it's that time of year again. I gotta admit, I think this stat is pretty spot on.




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                              "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                              • Pelado
                                Bald not naked
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 21084

                                #90
                                Originally posted by ERCougar View Post
                                I pay once a year at tax time. I think it's wrong to pay it monthly because you don't feel the pinch quite as badly. All of you who pay each month don't really know the meaning of sacrifice.

                                Where do bishops get off with stuff like this?
                                Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
                                I always donate stock in April when I finalize our tax return.
                                Why April instead of December? Unless you're on a fiscal tax year (which I've only seen once for an individual), the time value of the donation is greatest in late December.


                                Originally posted by Clark Addison View Post
                                I pay my tithing in stock options in my own company. If I ever make it big, the Church will have a huge windfall.
                                What's the expiration date on the options? Strike price? Does that class of shares entitle them to any voting rights? Are you using Black-Scholes for the valuation, or some other method? I suggest using the Trumpian method - it's worth whatever you feel like at the moment.
                                "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
                                - Goatnapper'96

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