The June 1

[UVACoug]

Regardless of whether I think the Church was justified in taking the action it did, my heart goes out to Kate Kelly and her family. I believe she sincerely loves the Church and I can understand her frustration and anger. I hope, in the long run, this experience becomes a blessing in disguise for her, regardless of where her relationship with the Church ends up.

[TripletDaddy]

They're my words.

That wasn't what I was asking. That other thing you posted was yours too, I assume. I'm just wondering if you copied and pasted it

[SeattleUte]

Thousands?

About 2,000 according to the story.

[kccougar]

Kate Kelly speaking with reporters about her excommunication: The Church is like an aggressive serial abuser who tells a woman it is beating her because it loves her. Okay.

http://youtu.be/RAGpGfcoopw

Publishing the letter from her Bishop and now putting this interview out there are not helpful for her cause. That's a bad look.

[wuapinmon]

That wasn't what I was asking. That other thing you posted was yours too, I assume. I'm just wondering if you copied and pasted it

I wrote it today and posted it to no other website. I often don't write stuff in Chrome because if it locks up or something, all is lost.

[TripletDaddy]

Publishing the letter from her Bishop and now putting this interview out there are not helpful for her cause. That's a bad look.

This is an interesting comment. I would think that the only thing that would matter for or against her cause is revelation. If there is one thing we have learned in this dispensation, it is that personal foibles, even offensive ones, don't impact the cause.

[Omaha 680]

About 2,000 according to the story.

Yeah I just went to the website. A worthy cause to be sure. The thousands number just struck me as odd considering the low homeless population in Utah (about 15,000 total and less than 500 chronically homeless).

[SoonerCoug]

Publishing the letter from her Bishop and now putting this interview out there are not helpful for her cause. That's a bad look.

It's only a bad look to orthodox Mormons, which make up a tiny fraction of 1% of the American population.

To everyone else, it just makes the truth more clear--Mormonism is a totalitarian religion that is willing to excommunicate an educated woman in a completely un-American way in order to stamp out dissent.

[New Mexican Disaster]

I only have a second to post this before "they" figure out where I am...but maybe SU is right, and satan himself (Tex), too. A very bad day for the church, whether classic or prog. Well, back into hiding.

[Commando]

It's only a bad look to orthodox Mormons, which make up a tiny fraction of 1% of the American population.

To everyone else, it just makes the truth more clear--Mormonism is a totalitarian religion that is willing to excommunicate an educated woman in a completely un-American way in order to stamp out dissent.

Any other words in support of Team Mormon?

[Omaha 680]

I only have a second to post this before "they" figure out where I am...but maybe SU is right, and satan himself (Tex), too. A very bad day for the church, whether classic or prog. Well, back into hiding.

Don't die.

[kccougar]

It's only a bad look to orthodox Mormons, which make up a tiny fraction of 1% of the American population.

To everyone else, it just makes the truth more clear--Mormonism is a totalitarian religion that is willing to excommunicate an educated woman in a completely un-American way in order to stamp out dissent.

Isn't that 1% pretty much the audience she is ostensibly trying to reach? You're right. She didn't come off very well for those people.

[FMCoug]

Other than for purposes of continuing education, I have never listened to a single podcast. Frankly, I know there are people like you and JL who will summarize them for us so that I don't have to waste my time.

This. My Mo podcast education is all viewed through a CS lens. CS = the Cliff's notes of Mormon podcasts.

[Moliere]

I really liked this article...which is unusual for me when I read anything from the MTA: http://lincoln.metacannon.net/2014/0...unication.html

Ironically, the only times that the Bible describes Jesus in ways that might be considered sanctimonious are when he confronts the sanctimonious, who would misuse religion to raise themselves at others' expense. In the temple courts, Jesus charges the money changers with robbery because they make it difficult for the poor to participate in religious ceremonies. Likewise, Jesus saves his sharpest criticisms for religious authorities that make burdens for others or do not share in others’ burdens, that like to call attention to their authority by how they dress or pray or the titles others use to address them, that impose dogmas to restrain others from spiritual progress and make them worse than they were before converting, that expect the poor to give all without adequately returning justice or mercy, and that generally make a big deal out of unimportant things while ignoring important things. Jesus calls such abusers of religious authority “hypocrites”, “children of hell”, “fools”, “blind guides”, “serpents” and “vipers”, and questions whether they can escape the damnation of hell.

The sanctimonious are right: Jesus doesn't accept everyone and everything. Most particularly, Jesus doesn't accept those who would misuse religion as an excuse for sanctimony. None receives greater condemnation from him. No other receives a passionate condemnation from him. It seems to me that this is because sanctimony desecrates religion itself, making the greatest evil of that which should be greatest good, using the unparalleled social power of religion against each other instead of for each other. Today, sanctimony desecrated the ordinance of excommunication.

[DrumNFeather]

Now I see that Dehlin is trotting out American Pie lyrics to further his cause. He's finally crossed the line!

Wouldn't Third Eye Blind be more appropriate?

"I wish you would step back from that ledge, my friend."