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[ERCougar]

Don't stop there! Tell us who the Jews are in this allegory!! Who is Judas?! The Romans? Good stuff!

Yeah, uh, not really an allegory. But thanks!

[ERCougar]

denying women the priesthood is definitely out of pure sexism and hate and most definitely comparable to having christ executed. or something

You guys struggle with this stuff, apparently.
Maybe you and commando should just pm each other. It will be less confusing for you.

[Joe Public]

It's a shame the words "electric boogaloo" haven't been worked into this thread somehow.

[Commando]

Yeah, uh, not really an allegory. But thanks!

Oh sorry. Metaphor? We're Pilate... because of the hand washing, right? So you're isolating that. Yeah that is sad.

[Commando]

You guys struggle with this stuff, apparently.
Maybe you and commando should just pm each other. It will be less confusing for you.

Maybe not, but you would probably become less angry.

[ERCougar]

I guess metaphor is closer. Of course, you'll try to complete that, just like you would every time anyone says they're trying to be like Jesus..."wait, what? Who are the Romans? Who are the Jews? You want to be crucified? Really? Who's judas?"

[ERCougar]

Maybe not, but you would probably become less angry.

sorry...did I sound angry there? weird.

[Commando]

I guess metaphor is closer. Of course, you'll try to complete that, just like you would every time anyone says they're trying to be like Jesus..."wait, what? Who are the Romans? Who are the Jews? You want to be crucified? Really? Who's judas?"

Well you have to admit that alluding to a peripheral character's actions, which had specific ramifications, does make one wonder what your larger point is in the context of that story. Pilate's passing the buck made it possible for the Jews to crucify Jesus(or demand his crucifixion I suppose). So the follow up question is logical- if the Church is pilate (speculatively) passing the buck, who is going to crucify Kate- the court of public opinion? Maybe you just intended to make a passing reference and all this analysis is unnecessary.

[CardiacCoug]

She's been excommunicated -- a damn shame.

These church courts really should have some female representation on them, especially for women but obviously for both women and men.

I had a really difficult time working for and being subordinate to female residents who were my superiors when I was a medical student and resident. I just felt like I didn't have much in common with them and always got awesome evaluations from any male superior and fair to poor evaluations from any female. Gave me a little taste of what it must be like to be judged by all opposite gender people.

[Maximus]

She's been excommunicated -- a damn shame.

These church courts really should have some female representation on them, especially for women but obviously for both women and men.

I had a really difficult time working for and being subordinate to female residents who were my superiors when I was a medical student and resident. I just felt like I didn't have much in common with them and always got awesome evaluations from any male superior and fair to poor evaluations from any female. Gave me a little taste of what it must be like to be judged by all opposite gender people.

it seems it must depend on if you actually believe what the church you are a member of teaches in terms of the spirit. does she think them being men means they have less chance of being guided by the spirit in their decision? she has sustained them as leaders after all.

[CardiacCoug]

it seems it must depend on if you actually believe what the church you are a member of teaches in terms of the spirit. does she think them being men means they have less chance of being guided by the spirit in their decision? she has sustained them as leaders after all.

Oh brother...

[Pelado]

it seems it must depend on if you actually believe what the church you are a member of teaches in terms of the spirit. does she think them being men means they have less chance of being guided by the spirit in their decision? she has sustained them as leaders after all.

Do you believe that a disciplinary council comprised of both men and women would be a bad thing? If so, why?

[Maximus]

Do you believe that a disciplinary council comprised of both men and women would be a bad thing? If so, why?

it wouldnt be a bad thing. but i dont think that the lack of women makes it necessarily unfair.

[Commando]

She's been excommunicated -- a damn shame.

These church courts really should have some female representation on them, especially for women but obviously for both women and men.

Not surprised in the least. I also don't think she really cares about being able to take the sacrament as much as she cares about her name in the paper. She'll be just fine in that regard.

[CardiacCoug]

it wouldnt be a bad thing. but i dont think that the lack of women makes it necessarily unfair.

Of course not necessarily unfair but obviously it would be more likely to be fair if both genders are represented, especially if a woman is being judged and sentenced.

You can't envision yourself in a similar situation having to appear before three or four middle-aged women who will decide your eternal fate. And if you wondered why men can't be part of the team that judges you that's considered faithless and just lack of spirit? Like I said, oh brother...