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[Jeff Lebowski]

I'm still surprised when otherwise intelligent people fall back on the "love it or leave it" retort. If Americans followed that line of thinking, we'd still have slavery, women wouldn't be able to vote and all the enlightened people would live in Canada.

I hate that line in just about every context.

[Sullyute]

Everyone knows who I am.

[SeattleUte]

She has set her sights too low. She needs to be going after God for sending his Son, and not some equally qualified daughter. Ordain Women is fighting for the right to have women in the custodial ranks.

I dont understand someone who leaves mormonism over this then converts to be a christian, or buddhist, or muslim, or jew. Most every god-pantheon is headed by a male. The only non-hypocritical stance is to become an atheist.

omg she's becoming a "Christian"?

Actually, I think she could non-hypocritically become a Buddhist, Reformed Jew or Anglican/Episcopalian. The latter two allow female clergy and Christ is quite asexual you have to admit. Buddhism doesn't have a patriarchy or hierarchy, really, and Buddha as well is asexual.

[SeattleUte]

I wasn't sure but I've confirmed that Buddhism has female monks. There are no Buddhist clergy other than monks.

http://www.buddhapadipa.org/buddhism...s-in-buddhism/

[YOhio]

I hate that line in just about every context.

Not me. Love it or leave it, You better gain way. You better hit bull's eye, The kid don't play.

[Blueintheface]

You're John Dehlin right it is.

[Northwestcoug]

You're John Dehlin right it is.

[Northwestcoug]

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http://www.feministmormonhousewives..../tone-matters/

[Pheidippides]

http://janariess.religionnews.com/20...ist-scripture/

[SeattleUte]

http://janariess.religionnews.com/20...ist-scripture/

She's a bit slow. The irony here is that Jesus himself was excommunicated (yes, and more) for apostasy.

[Katy Lied]

But Buddha was male. Since the god revered by buddhists is male, females will always be considered second class citizens.

[Pelado]

Identifying the accusers? That seems fine....although it's true she is the one that identified herself first although she claims the SP was going to go public with the council (not sure I've seen evidence that proves this). Also, identifying the bishopric counselors is not fair to them as they likely have no say in this matter at all until the council is convened. In fact, most times the bishopric counselors don't know who the accused is until a briefing that is given by the bishop directly before the accused is brought into the bishop's office.

Identifying personal details of the accusers (employer, political contributions)? At best it's petty and at worst it's a call to see if she can damage them in their own personal lives.

Yes. It seems less about petty and more about threatening.

Everyone knows who I am.

It's one thing to know who a person is, another to truly know the person.

She has set her sights too low. She needs to be going after God for sending his Son, and not some equally qualified daughter. Ordain Women is fighting for the right to have women in the custodial ranks.

I dont understand someone who leaves mormonism over this then converts to be a christian, or buddhist, or muslim, or jew. Most every god-pantheon is headed by a male. The only non-hypocritical stance is to become an atheist.

Which definition of atheist are you going for? You including the agnostics?

[Dwight Schr-ute]

A solid op-ed from the Washington Post.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/postev...id-of-dissent/

[Dr. Heinz Doofenshmirtz]

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http://www.feministmormonhousewives..../tone-matters/

Anybody else notice the street number on the invitation?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/187_(slang)

Apparently the proceedings will involve the Stake Presidency, the High Council and a few local Danites.

[Moliere]

A solid op-ed from the Washington Post.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/postev...id-of-dissent/

That was a good read. I was wondering if the author was Mormon and clicked on her name to reveal she is part of OW.