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  • #121
    Originally posted by byu71 View Post
    I would be shocked, beyond shocked if church leadership went after parents for their children's conduct.

    Now if it turns out the inuendo is untrue, I pretty much would hope people would ignore her (Kelly) in the future. If your cause is o piss poor you have to try and mislead people, find something else to do.

    If she ends up being right, then I will have to start conceding church leadership is starting to lose common sense.
    The problem is she didn't provide any context to that comment, she just threw it out there...which was odd.
    "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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    • #122
      Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
      I was kind of listening to this in the background... Did Kelly say she is going to resign from OW?
      Yes, she said that she is going to resign from leadership. She got a little choked up when she said it.

      Originally posted by byu71 View Post
      I would be shocked, beyond shocked if church leadership went after parents for their children's conduct.
      They have a profile on the Ordain Women website. So it appears like they are going after people who support the site or trying to strong arm Kate by going after her parents too. Sounds messy.
      "Friendship is the grand fundamental principle of Mormonism" - Joseph Smith Jr.

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      • #123
        Originally posted by DrumNFeather View Post
        The problem is she didn't provide any context to that comment, she just threw it out there...which was odd.
        It is a good way to leave an inuendo so those who choose to do so can think the worst. It also could be the newspapers edit on what she said. Of course hard for me to believe the tribune would be bias.

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        • #124
          Originally posted by creekster View Post
          I am struggling to find the humble in the brag, although I guess with my low California IQ that sort of subtlety probably eludes me.
          I don't even include it on my resume and don't regard it as being very impressive. I think it carries more weight among Mormon folks because it's named after the prophet, who is not really regarded as being a very significant figure outside the Church.
          That which may be asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence. -C. Hitchens

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          • #125
            Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
            Just listened to Trib talk with Dehlin and Kelly. Pretty much the same stuff we've been talking about. But Kelly did mention both of her parents have been released from their callings and their temple recommends removed. She didn't provide any details, but if it's related to support for their daughter, that's just flat out wrong.

            http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogstr...ogger.html.csp
            The bolded is your inference and I highly doubt it's correct.
            "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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            • #126
              Originally posted by Moliere View Post
              The bolded is your inference and I highly doubt it's correct.
              I'm inferring it because she's inferring it. See SullyUte's post above. They had a profile on OW. Since all church discipline is local , maybe they had a run-in with a hardline bishop.
              I'll take her word that her parents had their TR pulled. She assumes it's because of her involvement with OW. Maybe it isn't related, but neither you nor I know better to assume differently.
              "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
              "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
              - SeattleUte

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              • #127
                Originally posted by Bruiserstone View Post
                Kelly does not strike me as someone who would make that up. I'll take her word on that.
                I think Kelly, and John Dehlin it appears as well, wants to bring as much attention as she can to the issue. I thought I read she is an international human rights attorney. She cannot fathom that the LDS Church is going to continue on its path, of not extending the Priesthood to women, and if she and other likeminded progressives can bring enough pressure the PR savy and concerned Mormon Church will have to see it her way. She is just here to help them to understand they are on the wrong side of history. That is the world she lives in.

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z_KtOOuKcs
                Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                -General George S. Patton

                I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
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                • #128
                  Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                  You haven't asked to have your records removed? LOL, I guess I should have guessed you don't have the nuts to do so.
                  I grant you my power of attorney to get it done. I'm too busy and don't care.
                  When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                  --Jonathan Swift

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                  • #129
                    Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                    I grant you my power of attorney to get it done. I'm too busy and don't care.
                    But after you go you are encouraged to continue to pay tithing!
                    Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                    -General George S. Patton

                    I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                    -DOCTOR Wuap

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                    • #130
                      Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                      But after you go you are encouraged to continue to pay tithing!
                      Where did the church encourage these people to continue to pay tithing? Did I miss something?
                      "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                      • #131
                        Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                        Where did the church encourage these people to continue to pay tithing? Did I miss something?
                        I think if you missed everything about this event you likely missed very little.
                        Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                        -General George S. Patton

                        I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                        -DOCTOR Wuap

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                        • #132
                          Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                          Where did the church encourage these people to continue to pay tithing? Did I miss something?
                          I think the handbook says something to that effect about excommunicated or disfellowshipped members. The press release didn't say anything about it. At least not the one I read. Maybe the published letters to Dehlin and/or Ordain Women lady said it?
                          Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

                          There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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                          • #133
                            Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                            I grant you my power of attorney to get it done. I'm too busy and don't care.
                            That is surprising, considering all the crazy unbridled rage and sadness pouring out of you on these issues.
                            "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                            • #134
                              Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
                              I think the handbook says something to that effect about excommunicated or disfellowshipped members. The press release didn't say anything about it. At least not the one I read. Maybe the published letters to Dehlin and/or Ordain Women lady said it?
                              exed members can't shouldn't pay tithing, nor where garments. However their spouse can pay tithing. Disfellowshipped members are encouraged to pay tithing, and where their garments. At least that is my recollection from the CHOI.

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                              • #135
                                Originally posted by Art Vandelay View Post
                                exed members can't shouldn't pay tithing, nor where garments. However their spouse can pay tithing. Disfellowshipped members are encouraged to pay tithing, and where their garments. At least that is my recollection from the CHOI.
                                obvious attempt to troll donuthole.
                                I'm like LeBron James.
                                -mpfunk

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