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[Dwight Schr-ute]

This isn't going to sit well at the Togetherness Project convention.

http://m.deseretnews.com/article/865...ole-story.html

[Dwight Schr-ute]

Parody of the BYU-I jackoff video.

Crap. I missed it and now BYU-I had it pulled for copyright.

[Donuthole]

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Crap. I missed it and now BYU-I had it pulled for copyright.

You missed out; the parody was awesome.

[Applejack]

This isn't going to sit well at the Togetherness Project convention.

http://m.deseretnews.com/article/865...ole-story.html

This article is the DeezNewz at its finest. The article begins with:

A new study suggests that pornography addiction isn’t actually a real thing.

But then it acts like that sentence never happened:

Researchers, men, women and children have all shown pornography's addicting effects and the destruction it causes to lives and relationships.

And a 2013 study at the University of Sydney said pornography addiction was on the rise.

And then the M.O.N.E.Y. quote:

“Porn is usually harder to get off of than crack or meth. Porn is an image that can stay in you,” said Elisha Rogers, a 12-year-old member of FTND, a group striking out against pornography.

“Once you see it once and you’re addicted," she told Newsplex. "You keep that seeing that image in your head."

Conclusion: Scientists might tell you that porn addiction isn't real, but 12-year old Elisha knows the truth - one taste, and you're an addict.

[SeattleUte]

http://www.religiondispatches.org/di...n_of_religion/

Porn addiction is a creation of religion. Is this the same study addressed in the Deseret News?

[jay santos]

http://www.religiondispatches.org/di...n_of_religion/

Porn addiction is a creation of religion. Is this the same study addressed in the Deseret News?

It's a good question to ask. Same thing I ask about why bishops feel good about "relieving guilt" in teenage kids, when they're the ones creating guilt.

[CardiacCoug]

http://www.religiondispatches.org/di...n_of_religion/

Porn addiction is a creation of religion. Is this the same study addressed in the Deseret News?

There is no question that a very, very small percentage of people who view porn become clinically "addicted" to it -- meaning they stop going to work or lose their job because of it, let it ruin their relationships, and/or let excessive porn obsession displace much more important life activities.

But yeah LDS people generally use porn "addict" to mean just any normal guy that likes to look at porn, so absolutely in that sense porn "addiction" is a creation of religion.

[CardiacCoug]

I guess the other way religion might create porn addiction is that when porn is forbidden I guess it becomes more appealing and porn use becomes more excessive and compulsive for some weirdos.

But really true porn addiction is just a form of obsessive compulsive disorder -- the way people compulsively wash their hands over and over or check to make sure their car or house is locked up dozens of times in a row. Just because there truly are a few porn "addicts" it doesn't necessarily follow that occasional porn use is bad. I mean washing your hands and locking your doors is a good thing, right?

When these articles talk about how porn damages real life sexual relationships I always wonder why they haven't also interviewed or surveyed all the couples or individuals who say porn really helped them get better at sex. Let's hear both sides of the debate.

[SeattleUte]

I guess the other way religion might create porn addiction is that when porn is forbidden I guess it becomes more appealing and porn use becomes more excessive and compulsive for some weirdos.

But really true porn addiction is just a form of obsessive compulsive disorder -- the way people compulsively wash their hands over and over or check to make sure their car or house is locked up dozens of times in a row. Just because there truly are a few porn "addicts" it doesn't necessarily follow that occasional porn use is bad. I mean washing your hands and locking your doors is a good thing, right?

When these articles talk about how porn damages real life sexual relationships I always wonder why they haven't also interviewed or surveyed all the couples or individuals who say porn really helped them get better at sex. Let's hear both sides of the debate.

Maybe porn is salve for heretofore damaged relationships. Why doesn't anyone ever think of that possibility. I find it hard to believe that anyone would exchange the ardor of a real live woman to whom they are attracted for a greasy porn film. If that happens I agree with you there's a deeper problem like compulsive disorder.

The bottom line is, this issue is read meat for religious quacks and opportunists. One more area in which the LDS Church creates much suffering and is totally ignorant about the complexities of what's going on.

I also find it offensive that religions don't ever talk about the real victims of pornography. Poor women who out of desperation turn to these jobs often for poor compensation under illegal conditions. It reminds me of meatheads getting brain damaged playing pro football for our vicarious enjoyment.

[Commando]

I find it hard to believe that anyone would exchange the ardor of a real live woman to whom they are attracted for a greasy porn film.

Have you seen Don Jon? Not to trivialize your point, but that question is answered quite eloquently.

[jay santos]

I guess the other way religion might create porn addiction is that when porn is forbidden I guess it becomes more appealing and porn use becomes more excessive and compulsive for some weirdos.

But really true porn addiction is just a form of obsessive compulsive disorder -- the way people compulsively wash their hands over and over or check to make sure their car or house is locked up dozens of times in a row. Just because there truly are a few porn "addicts" it doesn't necessarily follow that occasional porn use is bad. I mean washing your hands and locking your doors is a good thing, right?

When these articles talk about how porn damages real life sexual relationships I always wonder why they haven't also interviewed or surveyed all the couples or individuals who say porn really helped them get better at sex. Let's hear both sides of the debate.

Also, the extreme guilt, feelings of worthlessness, feelings of duplicity, etc, for kids especially missionaries, I'm sure can cause other mental problems (anxiety, depression, etc, but hey I'm not a pscychologist). I know several people in my closest sphere of family and friends that I would say this happened to.

[wuapinmon]

Also, the extreme guilt, feelings of worthlessness, feelings of duplicity, etc, for kids especially missionaries, I'm sure can cause other mental problems (anxiety, depression, etc, but hey I'm not a pscychologist). I know several people in my closest sphere of family and friends that I would say this happened to.

This is part of how I felt when I struggled with porn. Guilt and worthlessness as a missionary and as a newlywed are awful. Even though everything else was in line, I thought that this one thing made me almost unredeemable. I have very different views now about it; it's not a make or break thing like I believed it was years ago. But, I still reject the idea of porn; I view it as a false seduction, an enticing lie, as it were.

[SeattleUte]

I view it as a false seduction, an enticing lie, as it were.

--Signed The Professor of Post Modern Literature

[wuapinmon]

--Signed The Professor of Post Modern Literature

There's no denying that.

[Dwight Schr-ute]

I happened across this blog from a link that some other CS'er posted someone on here. This post is quite interesting as it seems to be a contract that the wife is expecting her separated porn addicted husband to sign and live up to. I think it's safe to say that this marriage is over.

Some of the bullets that the wife is demanding full accounting of caught me a little off guard:

Partaking in anything that feeds into your shame, guilt & addiction ie. fountain soda / taking money out of paychecks or spending money Im not aware of/ hiding food / isolating / fantasizing / using fantasy books or any hobbies to isolate / mindlessly browsing internet or Google Maps to accidently “see” something like dirty billboards/ stores/ checking spam folder etc.

Fountain soda? Hiding food? Using Google Maps to get his porn fix off of dirty billboards?!

This inspired a bit more investigating and found the below in another post:

I learned to WAY waaaaay better protect my computer, phones, and tvs and to prevent filth from entering by learning HOW he was able to look up filth (like what apps are BAD, wikipedia app, google play, some camera apps, ringtones, Google Maps, google books& magazines, album art for music etc etc etc etc the list goes on of ways my husband found filth)