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  • YOhio
    Hipster Mode
    • Nov 2008
    • 26165

    #2701
    Originally posted by creekster View Post
    Seriously? I have come across more than a few of those types over the years and I would be shocked if they couldn't all describe a motion in limine.
    If you're going to be shocked you should use this emoji:

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    • old_gregg
      scaly man fish
      • Nov 2009
      • 16915

      #2702
      Originally posted by creekster View Post
      Seriously? I have come across more than a few of those types over the years and I would be shocked if they couldn't all describe a motion in limine.
      it might depend on flavor of non litigator but i suspect it’s true of your average biglaw m&a duder
      Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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      • Applejack
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 3812

        #2703
        Originally posted by creekster View Post
        Seriously? I have come across more than a few of those types over the years and I would be shocked if they couldn't all describe a motion in limine.
        I think that is incredibly true about the abstention stuff. The motion in limine is harder to explain, but again, there is no reason for non-litigators to know what it is. Now, they probably encountered it somewhere along the lines (like law school) but there is no reason for them to have remembered it for their careers.

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        • falafel
          loves to talk on things
          • Mar 2009
          • 37825

          #2704
          There has been a second mistrial in the Bundy case. This time the mistrial was granted due to prosecutorial misconduct. The prosecutors withheld evidence favorable to the Bundys until after trial began. The court could decide to make this mistrial with prejudice, meaning the Bundys would get off without punishment (other than the 2 years they have been sitting in jail waiting for trial).

          A judge declared a mistrial Wednesday morning in the Bunkerville standoff case involving rancher Cliven Bundy and other defendants, finding that the federal government improperly withheld evidence.

          “A mistrial in this case is the most suitable and only remedy available,” U.S. District Judge Gloria Navarro said.

          Bundy, his sons Ammon and Ryan, and co-defendant Ryan Payne, will face a new trial early next year on charges arising from the 2014 standoff with federal agents.

          Navarro said video surveillance, maps and FBI interview information were willfully withheld by the prosecution in violation of due process required by the Constitution.

          Considered collectively, she said, the evidence that was withheld was favorable to the defendants, and its untimely disclosure was prejudicial in that it “undermined the confidence of the outcome of the trial.”
          She said the government also failed to disclose an FBI threat assessment from 2012 that discussed the nonviolent nature of Cliven Bundy, which could have been used to undermine government claims that the Bundys posed a threat during the standoff and to bolster the defendants’ claims that the government acted unreasonably.

          Since the start of trial in late October, the defense has received 3,300 pages of discovery that was produced past deadline.
          Bunkerville rancher Cliven Bundy will face a new jury on Feb. 26 on conspiracy and other charges related to an armed standoff with federal agents.
          Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

          Dig your own grave, and save!

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          • Jeff Lebowski
            Corporate lackey for Jesus
            • Nov 2008
            • 69381

            #2705
            Originally posted by falafel View Post
            There has been a second mistrial in the Bundy case. This time the mistrial was granted due to prosecutorial misconduct. The prosecutors withheld evidence favorable to the Bundys until after trial began. The court could decide to make this mistrial with prejudice, meaning the Bundys would get off without punishment (other than the 2 years they have been sitting in jail waiting for trial).

            https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/b...held-evidence/
            Amazing how badly the government has botched these cases.
            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
            "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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            • old_gregg
              scaly man fish
              • Nov 2009
              • 16915

              #2706
              Originally posted by falafel View Post
              There has been a second mistrial in the Bundy case. This time the mistrial was granted due to prosecutorial misconduct. The prosecutors withheld evidence favorable to the Bundys until after trial began. The court could decide to make this mistrial with prejudice, meaning the Bundys would get off without punishment (other than the 2 years they have been sitting in jail waiting for trial).





              https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/b...held-evidence/
              is marcus mumford repping bundy on this? he’s an asshole but it seems like he’s done a great job on these.
              Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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              • falafel
                loves to talk on things
                • Mar 2009
                • 37825

                #2707
                Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
                is marcus mumford repping bundy on this? he’s an asshole but it seems like he’s done a great job on these.
                Last I recall, he was prevented from pro hac'ing into this case. I remember it being a big deal, but I don't remember how it ended up. I think Ammon Bundy ended up going pro se, which further underscores the USAO's ineptitude here.
                Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                Dig your own grave, and save!

                "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                • MartyFunkhouser
                  Disciple of RNGesus
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 18694

                  #2708
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                  They also were performed on Humphrey Bogart and Marilyn Monroe; the mother of Queen Elizabeth II; and grandparents of Kim Kardashian and Carrie Fisher, and U.S. politicians Joe Biden, John McCain and Mike Pence.
                  As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
                  --Kendrick Lamar

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                  • falafel
                    loves to talk on things
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 37825

                    #2709
                    How were baptisms for the dead performed on living people? I.e., Biden, McCain, Pence.
                    Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                    Dig your own grave, and save!

                    "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                    "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                    • Brian
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 2164

                      #2710
                      Originally posted by falafel View Post
                      How were baptisms for the dead performed on living people? I.e., Biden, McCain, Pence.
                      Politically dead.
                      I intend to live forever.
                      So far, so good.
                      --Steven Wright

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                      • Omaha 680
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 11159

                        #2711
                        Helen Radkey you are weird.

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                        • Jeff Lebowski
                          Corporate lackey for Jesus
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 69381

                          #2712
                          Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
                          Helen Radkey you are weird.
                          No kidding. I found this in an old trib article:

                          She traveled to Rome several times to "warn" Vatican officials of the growing warmth between Utah's Mormon and Catholic leaders, reporting proxy baptisms of dead Catholics, including martyrs and saints.
                          "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                          "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                          "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                          • Northwestcoug
                            Cocked and Loaded
                            • May 2011
                            • 17875

                            #2713
                            It cost half a million dollars to remove Holocaust names from the church’s database???
                            "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                            "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                            - SeattleUte

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                            • Donuthole
                              Official Outgayer
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 25211

                              #2714
                              Pretty cool gesture by former Ute Sealver Siliga.



                              Count me among those not surprised that a Ute is eating at Applebees, and in the bar area no less.
                              Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

                              There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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                              • MartyFunkhouser
                                Disciple of RNGesus
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 18694

                                #2715
                                Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
                                Pretty cool gesture by former Ute Sealver Siliga.



                                Count me among those not surprised that a Ute is eating at Applebees, and in the bar area no less.
                                The bar area is probably the only place with any redeemable qualities there. I bet they have at least one drinkable beer.
                                As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
                                --Kendrick Lamar

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