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  • Originally posted by creekster View Post
    You say this like you might think it is a bad thing.
    LOL.
    We all trust our own unorthodoxies.

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    • Originally posted by falafel View Post
      One of the videos kind of touches on this. The interviewer asks her about texts and seem to suggest that some of it was consensual. Texts from her saying "I love you" etc. Her response was that how could it be consensual when he is basically forcing her to say stuff like that just to keep him from blowing a gasket.
      I didn't watch the video, but anyone in a position of authority should not be allowed to have a sexual relationship with a subordinate, whether it's an employee, student, or other. The power structure alone makes it impossible for the authority figure to know if it is a consensual relationship or if consent is a pretense based on intimidation. Nobody has sex with an employee, student, intern, etc. and without losing their job unless they are the POTUS.
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      October sky the Four Horsemen rode again"
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      • Originally posted by cowboy View Post
        Nobody has sex with an employee, student, intern, etc. and without losing their job unless they are the POTUS.
        Ha! Many times it works the opposite.

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        • http://www.sltrib.com/news/5351910-1...epay-donations

          "The LDS Church has agreed to return $150,000 of tithing received from Curtis and Michelle DeYoung stemming from their operation of a business that held self-directed IRA's from which Curtis DeYoung misappropriated nearly $25 million."

          I'm always amazed at no matter how messed up some people are in regards to keeping some commandments they still hang in there on others.

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          • Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
            http://www.sltrib.com/news/5351910-1...epay-donations

            "The LDS Church has agreed to return $150,000 of tithing received from Curtis and Michelle DeYoung stemming from their operation of a business that held self-directed IRA's from which Curtis DeYoung misappropriated nearly $25 million."

            I'm always amazed at no matter how messed up some people are in regards to keeping some commandments they still hang in there on others.
            No kidding. How is 150k 10% of 25 million?

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            • Originally posted by LVAllen View Post
              No kidding. How is 150k 10% of 25 million?

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              Maybe they use Rock Waterman's method for calculating tithing. http://puremormonism.blogspot.com/20...h-tithing.html
              Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.

              "Cog dis is a bitch." -James Patterson

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              • http://www.heraldextra.com/news/loca...8b7fa282b.html

                LDS bishop arrested by Mapleton police on reports of sexually abusing two underage males

                Officers with the Mapleton Police Department arrested a man Wednesday on reports of sexually abusing two underage boys.
                Police reports state on April 20, a now 18-year-old man told police he was sexually abused by a man about three years ago.
                The young man said Erik Hughes, 51, was at first very friendly and provided him with what the male thought was melatonin to help him sleep. But it made him disoriented and Hughes told him he must’ve given him the wrong pill.
                Some good friends of mine is in that ward. They're completely blown away.
                "The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuane

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                • And you progMos say The Brethren don't listen.

                  Pants for women, parental leave for all LDS Church employees
                  Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                  For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                  Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                  • Former BYU student sentenced to months' jail time for sexually abusing young girls

                    A former Brigham Young University student has been sentenced to serve jail time after reportedly sexually assaulting several underage girls and attempting to meet with a 13-year-old girl online.


                    The defendant, Nicholas Lewis, 25, was sentenced Friday at Provo’s Fourth District Court by Judge Darold McDade to serve 300 days in the Utah County Jail.


                    Lewis will receive credit for the 198 days already served in jail.


                    Lewis has also been ordered by McDade to pay a fine of $1,122. This does not include restitution fines and fees.


                    Lewis was first arrested for his crimes in December 2016. Reports state an undercover officer posed as a 13-year-old online and Lewis engaged in sexual conversations with the officer. He was a BYU student at the time of his arrest.
                    [...]
                    http://www.heraldextra.com/news/loca...140a2960c.html

                    A quick internet search reveals that this guy was a 4.0 ChemE student and Monson Presidential Scholar...

                    Brigham Young University, Fulton School of Engineering and Technology, April 2016
                    Bachelor of Science in Chemical Engineering, GPA: 4.0
                    [...]
                    Thomas S. Monson Presidential Scholar with National Merit dinstinction, Brigham Young University (most prestigious and selective scholarship awarded by BYU)
                    AIChE Outstanding Freshman award, 2013
                    Eagle Scout, Boy Scouts of America, June 2006
                    http://apm.byu.edu/prism/index.php/M.../NicholasLewis

                    And an Eagle Scout!
                    "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                    "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                    "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                    • Dang, only 300 days and $1,122 for molesting little girls. WTF?
                      Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                      For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                      Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                      • Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                        Dang, only 300 days and $1,122 for molesting little girls. WTF?
                        4 felony convictions all involving sexual abuse of children. Admissions of sexually abusing girls as young as 5 or 6 years old. I'm sure the Dude will be here with accusations of outrage porn, but there is no justification for this sentence. The pedophile should have spent a minimum of 5 years in prison.

                        Hard to not think that being a Monson scholar, LDS, and having a father that taught at BYU didn't play a role in what was an absurdly light sentence.

                        The pedophile is already out of jail.
                        http://www.utahcounty.gov/Dept/Sheri....asp?ID=347074
                        Last edited by MartyFunkhouser; 07-11-2017, 05:18 PM.
                        As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
                        --Kendrick Lamar

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                        • Originally posted by mpfunk View Post

                          Hard to not think that being a Monson scholar, LDS, and having a father that taught at BYU didn't play a role in what was an absurdly light sentence.
                          I am guessing the light sentence was due to the fact he was an eagle scout.
                          "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                          "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                          "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                          • Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
                            4 felony convictions all involving sexual abuse of children. Admissions of sexually abusing girls as young as 5 or 6 years old. I'm sure the Dude will be here with accusations of outrage porn, but there is no justification for this sentence. The pedophile should have spent a minimum of 5 years in prison.

                            Hard to not think that being a Monson scholar, LDS, and having a father that taught at BYU didn't play a role in what was an absurdly light sentence.

                            The pedophile is already out of jail.
                            http://www.utahcounty.gov/Dept/Sheri....asp?ID=347074
                            Technically, he had a sentence of at least 5 years, once you include the probation. But according to that article, he was convicted of two 1st degree felonies that carried a sentence of 3 years-life, one second degree felony (1-15 years), and one third degree (0-5 years). I'd expect a sentence of at least 3 years, like these other folks got:
                            http://www.cachevalleydaily.com/news...1c3c4b79a.html
                            http://news.hjnews.com/allaccess/log...a0970166b.html

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                            • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                              http://www.heraldextra.com/news/loca...140a2960c.html

                              A quick internet search reveals that this guy was a 4.0 ChemE student and Monson Presidential Scholar...


                              http://apm.byu.edu/prism/index.php/M.../NicholasLewis

                              And an Eagle Scout!
                              During police interviews, Lewis told police he’d sexually assaulted several underage girls. Lewis said he lost track of how many times he sexually abused underage girls.

                              Lewis reportedly told police he’d molest girls younger than 5- or 6-years-old because he thought they wouldn’t remember the abuse.
                              It doesn't give a time frame but I wonder how he ends up with 5 or 6 year old girls alone and so many times he lost track?

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                              • Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
                                It doesn't give a time frame but I wonder how he ends up with 5 or 6 year old girls alone and so many times he lost track?
                                Sounds like family and friends... I guess he was living at home?

                                After his arrest in December, Lewis told police that for 10 to 15 years he had "continually sexually abused and fantasized about sexually abusing young female girls," including family members, according to a probable cause statement.


                                Lewis told police he had sexually abused numerous children and young female relatives younger than 6 years old.
                                [...]
                                In addition to seven felony charges filed in December — one second-degree felony and six third-degree felonies — in connection to the online chats, Lewis was charged in January with aggravated sexual abuse of a child, a first-degree felony carrying a potential prison sentence of 15 years to life.


                                In that case, Lewis was accused of sexually abusing a 6- or 7-year-old relative during a sleepover in December 2016.

                                Lewis was charged in a third case in April with aggravated sexual abuse of a child, a first-degree felony, and sexual abuse of a child, a second-degree felony. In that case, Lewis was accused of sexually abusing an 8-year-old girl sleeping over at his house between April and June 2008.
                                http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8...sex-abuse.html

                                As for his light sentencing...

                                Lewis accepted a plea deal in May, admitting in the first case to enticing a minor over the internet, a second-degree felony, and dealing in materials harmful to a minor, a third-degree felony; admitting in the second case to attempted aggravated sexual abuse of a child, a first-degree felony; and admitting in the third case to attempted aggravated sexual abuse of a child, a first-degree felony, while the second-degree felony charge was dismissed.

                                In exchange for Lewis' plea, prosecutors agreed that sentences in the three cases would run concurrently.
                                So, yeah, he will serve a short sentence but be on probation for a while. Not to mention be a registered sex offender and felon for life. I don't think he will be back at BYU but maybe the U will take him.
                                "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                                "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                                "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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