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[Northwestcoug]

For all those who still side with Bundy and blame Obama for the standoff, may you receive the same delayed justice Bundy did, should you ever decide to evade the law like he did.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Can't reasonable adults assume that both sides have acted poorly while leaning towards one side of the discussion or is that simply not possible in today's political charged climate?

You going to offer some real analysis here, or just continue to act aloof from the peanut gallery?

[Blueintheface]

You going to offer some real analysis here, or just continue to act aloof from the peanut gallery?

Aloof? It's an honest question. What's wrong with asking a question while offering absolutely no opinion on the subject? I'm not trying to inject my slant on the conversation, I'm asking if it's possible.

[ERCougar]

I agree with this. The way Bundy has gone about this I wouldn't want to associate with. On the other hand the Obama administration chooses to not enforce so many laws and rules, why couldn't they look the other way on this one?

I'm guessing the Bush administration killed some cattle.

[dabrockster]

that's a shame, i'm sure your take is both insightful and well reasoned.

Ahhh. I see what you did there..

[Jeff Lebowski]

Aloof? It's an honest question. What's wrong with asking a question while offering absolutely no opinion on the subject? I'm not trying to inject my slant on the conversation, I'm asking if it's possible.

Let's see, we have learned that political indignation amuses you and you are wondering why people can't be as balanced and even-handed as you are. That's super interesting!

[ERCougar]

Can't reasonable adults assume that both sides have acted poorly while leaning towards one side of the discussion or is that simply not possible in today's political charged climate?

I would love to. I'm surrounded by Bundy supporters and I've sincerely tried to understand where they're coming. I just don't get it. I have yet to hear an honest and reasonable defense of his position that I can get behind. I've heard plenty of lies from them. I've heard seditious and crazy rhetoric from them. I've seen some frankly scary people align themselves with them. And now they're drawing beads on civilian employees. This seems to be one of those times when one side is just plain wrong.

If you don't recognize the government where you live and brazenly disobey its laws, while spouting off anti-US rhetoric and threatening violence to civilians, how are you anything but a terrorist and an enemy? If you don't like term, quit meeting its definition. Reid is right in this case.

[YOhio]

Let's see, we have learned that political indignation amuses you and you are wondering why people can't be as balanced and even-handed as you are. That's super interesting!

We also learned that dabrockster isn't confident enough to defend his political positions.

[dabrockster]

We also learned that dabrockster isn't confident enough to defend his political positions.

YO!! The lead peanut gallery commentator.. Good of you to join us!

[Joe Public]

I just lost a lengthy post about the Townsend Acts and John Hancock, Shay's Rebellion, and Thomas Jefferson. No way I'm typing that again.

[ERCougar]

I just lost a lengthy post about the Townsend Acts and John Hancock, Shay's Rebellion, and Thomas Jefferson. No way I'm typing that again.

The gist? I'm interested.

[Blueintheface]

Let's see, we have learned that political indignation amuses you and you are wondering why people can't be as balanced and even-handed as you are. That's super interesting!

First of all, why does my amusement bother you? Blind indignance on issues you, me, or anyone on this board couldn't possibly understand by simply reading a handful of reports amuses me. Watching people dissemble amuses me. Watching people getting mocked for their opinion by those on the other side of the issue amuses me.

I'm not passionate about this issue is the first reason why I haven't opined yet. You're the second.

Secondly, counselor, if you could show me where I stated I was balanced and even-handed wrt to this issue I would appreciate it.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Oklahoma militia joins in.

http://rt.com/usa/154048-oklahoma-mi...s-bundy-ranch/

Now, though, members of the Oklahoma militia are saying the claim against Bundy is illegal, and that they would stand alongside the Nevada rancher even if it meant taking up arms against the federal government.

“Evidently in America we don’t actually own the property anymore if you ever did,” militia member Scott Shaw told local news station KFOR. “It’s up to the feds. The ball’s in their court! You can do this legally or if you want to try to do a land grab violently, you can do that. We’re going to resist you!”

Legally? Such as follow due process and get a court order? I.e., exactly what they did?

How people taking up arms against government officials can lecture about behaving legally is beyond me. These people are stupid and dangerous.

[Jeff Lebowski]

First of all, why does my amusement bother you? Blind indignance on issues you, me, or anyone on this board couldn't possibly understand by simply reading a handful of reports amuses me. Watching people dissemble amuses me. Watching people getting mocked for their opinion by those on the other side of the issue amuses me.

I'm not passionate about this issue is the first reason why I haven't opined yet. You're the second.

You seemed confused by my use of the word "aloof". Given your response here, that surprises me.

Enjoy the peanuts!

Secondly, counselor, if you could show me where I stated I was balanced and even-handed wrt to this issue I would appreciate it.

You posted:

Can't reasonable adults assume that both sides have acted poorly while leaning towards one side of the discussion or is that simply not possible in today's political charged climate?

Kind of an odd question (and hypocritical) if you don't consider yourself one of these fair-minded reasonable adults.

[Uncle Ted]

Oklahoma militia joins in.

http://rt.com/usa/154048-oklahoma-mi...s-bundy-ranch/



Legally? Such as follow due process and get a court order? I.e., exactly what they did?

How people taking up arms against government officials can lecture about behaving legally is beyond me. These people are stupid and dangerous.

Their Sen. Jim Inhole spelled out for you in the article...

Speaking to KFOR, Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-Okla.) said both sides were to blame for the current situation.

You’ve got a bunch of people there trying to take the law into their own hands and they shouldn’t be doing that. And the Bureau of Land Management is not government-owned, it’s publicly owned. There’s a big difference there. I blame both sides.”

They pwned the BLM.