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[Moliere]

Yep.

US = energy independent since 2011.

Natural gas at an all-time high. Crude oil on a very sharp climb.

I will leave it to Uncle Ted to comment on how this makes Texas awesome.

LOL! You might want to find a graph that shows more than just refined petroleum products to prove your point....but then again you won't find such a graph. We are not energy independent. In fact, we still import over 5 million barrels a day of crude and product.

[cowboy]

Yep.

US = energy independent since 2011.

Natural gas at an all-time high. Crude oil on a very sharp climb.

I will leave it to Uncle Ted to comment on how this makes Texas awesome.

Again, much of that goes away between the listing of two birds that aren't endangered and the implementation of fracing regulations. The US energy boom has happened despite the feds, not because of them.

[Jeff Lebowski]

LOL! You might want to find a graph that shows more than just refined petroleum products to prove your point....but then again you won't find such a graph. We are not energy independent. In fact, we still import over 5 million barrels a day of crude and product.

Hey, I am getting my data from the American Petroleum Institute.

http://www.api.org/policy-and-issues...ergy-in-charts

Yeah, I understand that with the realities of a global economy that "energy independence" can mean a lot of things and we will probably always be both importing and exporting. But the point (which you seem to have missed) is that the US energy industry is humming right along. I think that is great, btw.

[Green Monstah]

It's not working very well then.

Well, the LPC listing was announced two weeks ago, and doesn't become effective for another 3 weeks, so there hasn't been a whole lot of opportunity to bring the industry into submission.

[Moliere]

Hey, I am getting my data from the American Petroleum Institute.

http://www.api.org/policy-and-issues...ergy-in-charts

Yeah, I understand that with the realities of a global economy that "energy independence" can mean a lot of things and we will probably always be both importing and exporting. But the point (which you seem to have missed) is that the US energy industry is humming right along. I think that is great, btw.

I'm well aware of the humming going along in the US energy industry. I work in the heart of it (and I'm not talking about being in Houston). By way of education, petroleum products typically refers to outputs of refineries (motor gas, distillates, lubricants, etc.) so your graph is only showing the net import/export of these refined products. It's no secret we export more of this stuff than we import because that stuff is pretty expensive in other parts of the world.

What your graph excludes in its entirety is the net imports/exports of crude oil. We still import a freakin' load of crude, like a lot more than our product exports. We aren't close to being energy independent, but we are closer than we were 10 years ago, which is a good thing.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I'm well aware of the humming going along in the US energy industry. I work in the heart of it (and I'm not talking about being in Houston). By way of education, petroleum products typically refers to outputs of refineries (motor gas, distillates, lubricants, etc.) so your graph is only showing the net import/export of these refined products. It's no secret we export more of this stuff than we import because that stuff is pretty expensive in other parts of the world.

What your graph excludes in its entirety is the net imports/exports of crude oil. We still import a freakin' load of crude, like a lot more than our product exports. We aren't close to being energy independent, but we are closer than we were 10 years ago, which is a good thing.

I have heard several times over the last few years that when you combine natural gas, coal, crude, etc., that we are now (or soon will be) a net exporter of energy. Is that not the case?

[Moliere]

I have heard several times over the last few years that when you combine natural gas, coal, crude, etc., that we are now a net exporter of energy. Is that not the case?

Not to beleaguer the tangent, but we are a net importer of natural gas and crude. I have no idea on coal as I don't deal with it like the other two. I imagine we send a lot to Europe but coal is a dying industry given the current political environment.

[Green Monstah]

Not to beleaguer the tangent, but we are a net importer of natural gas and crude. I have no idea on coal as I don't deal with it like the other two. I imagine we send a lot to Europe but coal is a dying industry given the current political environment.

I wonder if we export coal to Asia? I've heard China and India have an isatiable appetite for it.

It would be great if we could streamline LNG exports somehow. It's a huge capital investment on the front end, and the regulatory risk is high, so even blue chip companies are wary of US LNG projects.

[Uncle Ted]

I will leave it to Uncle Ted to comment on how this makes Texas awesome.

Texas is awesome by definition...

In 2013, Texas oil and gas fuel drive to energy independence

The United States took significant steps toward achieving energy independence in 2013 with Texas oil fields and companies leading the way.


Whether the country will ever be able to cut out foreign oil imports completely is a matter of debate. But there’s no question imports from the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) declined significantly this year in large part of increased shale drilling in places such as the Eagle Ford Shale in South Texas, Permian Basin in West Texas and the Bakken Shale in North Dakota.


Oil imports in 2014 are expected to be about 5.4 million barrels a day compared to 12.5 million barrels in 2005.
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If Texas were a country, it would rank 15th in the world in terms of oil production.
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http://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/ne....html?page=all

[Jeff Lebowski]

Former Arizona Sheriff Richard Mack (BYU grad) reveals that they planned to put women on the front line in case the feds started shooting:

http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/14/bu...to-feds-video/

“We were actually strategizing to put all the women up at the front,” he said. “If they are going to start shooting, it’s going to be women that are going to be televised all across the world getting shot by these rogue federal officers.”

Way to go, brave patriots!

[cowboy]

Way to go, brave patriots!

chivalry is officially dead.

[Northwestcoug]

Former Arizona Sheriff Richard Mack (BYU grad) reveals that they planned to put women on the front line in case the feds started shooting:

http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/14/bu...to-feds-video/



Way to go, brave patriots!

I think he said what was supposed to stay in his head.

What an enormous idiot to actually admit that. And idiots and assholes all around if they actually planned a publicity stunt that might have lead to deaths. And be OK with that.

[myboynoah]

chivalry is officially dead.

Yes, women need the protection of brave men.

[Dwight Schr-ute]

Of course Jon Stewart is on break this week!

[Uncle Ted]

Collins manages to insult Utahns with comments on Bundy roundup

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It started when Darin Bushman, a Piute County, Utah, commissioner, called Collins about the Bureau of Land Management roundup of Bundy’s cattle in the Gold Butte area, about 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas. The cattle are being seized after Bundy failed to pay grazing fees over 20 years. When the conversation ended, Bushman posted on Facebook that Collins said Utahns are “inbred bastards” and if they come to Clark County to support Bundy they “better have funeral plans.” Collins also told Bushman that they should mind their “own (expletive) business.”


“Now that’s some classy leadership for you,” Bushman wrote in his post.
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https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/w...-bundy-roundup

Tom Collins for US Senator.