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  • Uncle Ted
    The Big 12 money shot.
    • Apr 2010
    • 28853

    #1306
    So did this change come about because of a recent change in the Q of 12?

    First, I think the history here is interesting. In a 2005 interview with Greg Prince, former General RS Presidency member Chieko Okazaki, who served from 1990-1997, said:

    We asked one time if we could be on the building committee and the temple committee, because sometimes we think, “Why did they build it this way?”—because it doesn’t work very well for the women’s needs. And we wanted to be on the temple committee, because there are many things that affect women in the temple. But we were never allowed to be a part of those committees. I think we could help a great deal, but you have to have leaders in the Church who are willing to make that possible.
    So it is interesting to see this change come about.
    Yesterday, President Oscarson announced on her Facebook page that she was now assigned to be a member of the Missionary Executive Council. President Burton is now a member of the Priesthood Executive Council (which has been renamed the Priesthood and Family Executive Council) and President Wixom is now on the Temple and Family History Executive


    Of course not... It was part of the plan:

    I love Sister Dew’s framing that this is not a mere administrative change but rather part of the Restoration.
    "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
    "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
    "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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    • hostile
      lollygagger
      • Dec 2009
      • 5736

      #1307
      Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
      How about a decade before?

      Even earlier than that.
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      "You interns are like swallows. You shit all over my patients for six weeks and then fly off."

      "Don't be sorry, it's not your fault. It's my fault for overestimating your competence."

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      • Pelado
        Bald not naked
        • Sep 2010
        • 21060

        #1308
        Originally posted by jay santos View Post
        I judge women on their sexual attractiveness, not their message, so I am not a big Kate Kelly fan.
        Almost spit out my soda while reading this line.
        "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
        - Goatnapper'96

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        • Donuthole
          Official Outgayer
          • Nov 2008
          • 25212

          #1309
          If a female tried to get into the priesthood session of GC...

          At least Kate Kelly has finally learned some social grace and isn't taking all the credit like many assumed she would:
          Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

          There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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          • Jeff Lebowski
            Corporate lackey for Jesus
            • Nov 2008
            • 69388

            #1310
            Originally posted by jay santos View Post
            This change doesn't sound like much, but I'm hopeful there will be more in the future.

            Those that say Kate Kelly doesn't do any good are wrong. I judge women on their sexual attractiveness, not their message, so I am not a big Kate Kelly fan. But you have to admit she's had some influence.

            The church moves the right direction on social issues. Unfortunately, it moves very slowly and sometimes only when forced to legally or financially or when the negative ramifications of their backwards practices become so painful they're essentially forced. Unfortunately the church needs the Kate Kelly's and John Dehlin's of the world. With them, other good but chickenshit progressive leaders can step up and encourage change, and be considered moderate voices. Without the boogeymen like Kelly and Delhin, the good but chickenshit guys can't even open their mouth or they become the boogeymen.
            This is an interesting theory, Jay. We need tone-deaf narcissists out there shaking things up so that the rest of us look normal by comparison. Uh... OK.

            I am sure JD and KK are high-fiving and patting themselves on the back today. Most likely without ever considering or noting other voices and leaders in OW, many of which disagreed with KK on tactics. Or all of the various people posting on the bloggernacle on this topic for years, including Neylan McBaine (who wrote a book on the topic), Julie Smith, etc., many of which actually had real access to church leadership.
            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
            "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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            • Moliere
              One man.....one pie
              • Oct 2009
              • 27756

              #1311
              Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
              Women are fighting for the opportunity no man wants, to sit in boring council meetings. People are odd.
              I know a lot of men that want to sit in on those councils. They just don't get chosen
              "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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              • Jeff Lebowski
                Corporate lackey for Jesus
                • Nov 2008
                • 69388

                #1312
                Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
                At least Kate Kelly has finally learned some social grace and isn't taking all the credit like many assumed she would:
                Haha. Cha-ching.
                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                • YOhio
                  Hipster Mode
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 26165

                  #1313
                  Good for her. Someone should buy her a computer for all she's done.

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                  • jay santos
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 13652

                    #1314
                    Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                    This is an interesting theory, Jay. We need tone-deaf narcissists out there shaking things up so that the rest of us look normal by comparison. Uh... OK.

                    I am sure JD and KK are high-fiving and patting themselves on the back today. Most likely without ever considering or noting other voices and leaders in OW, many of which disagreed with KK on tactics. Or all of the various people posting on the bloggernacle on this topic for years, including Neylan McBaine (who wrote a book on the topic), Julie Smith, etc., many of which actually had real access to church leadership.
                    Think Malcolm X vs MLK.

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                    • DrumNFeather
                      Invisible Swordsman
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 8854

                      #1315
                      Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                      Good for her. Someone should buy her a computer for all she's done.
                      Stretch Goal!
                      "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

                      Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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                      • Topper
                        Pre-Historic Man
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 11764

                        #1316
                        Here is one take on the announcement.

                        http://janariess.religionnews.com/20...ns-leadership/
                        "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                        Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                        • TripletDaddy
                          sweet triple
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 58186

                          #1317
                          Originally posted by Topper View Post
                          Here is one take on the announcement.

                          http://janariess.religionnews.com/20...ns-leadership/
                          Funny joke in the comments section

                          How many Mormons does it take to change a lightbulb? Two, one to change it and one to say nothing was changed
                          Fitter. Happier. More Productive.

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                          • Dwight Schr-ute
                            Members Only
                            • May 2011
                            • 4917

                            #1318
                            Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                            Funny joke in the comments section
                            But does that include the person that passed around the sign up sheet?
                            I told him he was a goddamn Nazi Stormtrooper.

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                            • HBCoug
                              Peanut Gallery Asshat
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 2082

                              #1319
                              Less funny joke in the comments section on CS:

                              But does that include the person that passed around the sign up sheet?

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                              • clackamascoug
                                Banned
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 9709

                                #1320
                                Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                                This is an interesting theory, Jay. We need tone-deaf narcissists out there shaking things up so that the rest of us look normal by comparison. Uh... OK.
                                This thought appeals to me, how do I sign up?

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