If a female tried to get into the priesthood session of GC...

[jay santos]

Maybe I'm not up to speed, but chiasmus in the BoM seems to be one of those things that critics can only say was unconsciously included. Basically saying that Joseph (or whomever they think wrote it) got lucky that it turned out to be chiasmic in places. This is an incredibly weak argument. So what am I missing?

http://www.cougarstadium.com/showthr...=1#post1088362

[Moliere]

http://www.cougarstadium.com/showthr...=1#post1088362

.

[byu71]

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Hillarious. Is that an actual photo of Sooner you have pasted?

[Paperback Writer]

The difference between science & faith isn't really the basis for belief or knowledge.
It's the willingness to adjust "knowledge" based on observable (and replicable) facts.
It's the recognition that knowledge is earned through logic & discussion & rational inquiry, not disseminated through irreproachable fiat by means of a priestly class.

Science recognizes that it doesn't have all the answers. Religion often does not.

This is not meant to refute your excellent observation but could not similar statements be made about faith? I'm referring to faith in general outside of the constructs of a specific religion. Can a believer be willing to adjust faith based on experience; some of which could be categorized as obseravable and repeatable? For example, a person who feels "good" inside when he performs acts of service for others over time. Or someone who feels closer to diety through temple attendance or worship services over many years. Or someone who feels indifferent about drinking wine on occasion or eating lobster and comes to the conclusion that these may not be "true" commandments. Some believers (many?) might construct their personal faith or theology based on experience and enlightened by scripture study versus irreproachable fiat disseminated by a religious hierarchy.

[San Juan Sun]

This is not meant to refute your excellent observation but could not similar statements be made about faith? I'm referring to faith in general outside of the constructs of a specific religion. Can a believer be willing to adjust faith based on experience; some of which could be categorized as obseravable and repeatable? For example, a person who feels "good" inside when he performs acts of service for others over time. Or someone who feels closer to diety through temple attendance or worship services over many years. Or someone who feels indifferent about drinking wine on occasion or eating lobster and comes to the conclusion that these may not be "true" commandments. Some believers (many?) might construct their personal faith or theology based on experience and enlightened by scripture study versus irreproachable fiat disseminated by a religious hierarchy.

Interesting thought. I wonder what sort of prompts would make a person of faith adjust their faith? Feelings, ideas, burning in the bosom, etc. What causes those feelings? Probably little things like dopamine and serotonin. I wonder what might trigger those little neurotransmitters, and for what reason. Is it the spirit, or is it an evolutionary mechanism that provides some sort of procreationary advantage to us?

[jay santos]

Can't believe I gave you guys something so effing brilliant and no one appreciates it.

[All-American]

Can't believe I gave you guys something so effing brilliant and no one appreciates it.

Said God, referring to the priesthood.

[creekster]

Said God, referring to the priesthood.

The women do!

[TripletDaddy]

Can't believe I gave you guys something so effing brilliant and no one appreciates it.

I honestly didnt get it. When you had to provide a link to explain it, I lost all respect.

[Joe Public]

Said God, referring to the priesthood.

Link?

[Moliere]

http://www.allenwyatt.com/blog/poign...sticker-memes/

FYI, I'm not saying this defense of the statements in the meme makes anything okay, just found the rationalizations and arguments both interesting and hilariously flawed.

[Uncle Ted]

http://www.allenwyatt.com/blog/poign...sticker-memes/

FYI, I'm not saying this defense of the statements in the meme makes anything okay, just found the rationalizations and arguments both interesting and hilariously flawed.

They should have used some other statement instead of Tanner's. President David O. McKay's, for example, would be good:

“The seeming discrimination by the Church toward the Negro is not something which originated with man; but goes back into the beginning with God….

http://signaturebookslibrary.org/?p=457

Of course, it is now apparently "not known precisely" if God had anything to do with the priesthood ban:

It is not known precisely why, how or when this restriction began in the Church, but it has ended.

http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/mormonism-101#C17

[Bo Diddley]

http://www.allenwyatt.com/blog/poign...sticker-memes/

FYI, I'm not saying this defense of the statements in the meme makes anything okay, just found the rationalizations and arguments both interesting and hilariously flawed.

Maybe we should start saying there are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and memes.

[Uncle Ted]

Something is different about the conference Ensign...

http://media.ldscdn.org/pdf/magazine...saints-eng.pdf

[All-American]

Something is different about the conference Ensign...

http://media.ldscdn.org/pdf/magazine...saints-eng.pdf

We now consider the matter closed. Please stop sending us letters.