If a female tried to get into the priesthood session of GC...

[All-American]

If a female tried to get into the priesthood session of GC...

What, you already cashed out?

[TripletDaddy]

Those are actuarial tables. Does the church pay for life insurance for GAs? So basically when an apostle dies his named beneficiaries receive money, the premiums for which have been paid for by the Church? For some reason that strikes me as odd.

[Northwestcoug]

What, you already cashed out?

That's even more rofl!

[FMCoug]

What, you already cashed out?

That's even more rofl!

Ahhh to live a life where your worldview assumes everyone dies not only solvent, but with a surplus.

[All-American]

If a female tried to get into the priesthood session of GC...

That's even more rofl!

Ah, I see. So you'll actually be sorry when your folks die. Good for you. Maybe you could send me your actuarial tables, so I can know when I should expect to offer my condolences.

Or maybe I should muster up half an ounce of respect and wait for the living to die before making funeral arrangements?

[TripletDaddy]

Ah, I see. So you'll actually be sorry when your folks die. Good for you. Maybe you could send me your actuarial tables, so I can know when I should expect to offer my condolences.

Or maybe I should muster up half an ounce of respect and wait for the living to die before making funeral arrangements?

I, too, find it distasteful. Out of curiosity, have you ever participated in any of the death pool threads here? I would like to think you are consistent.

[All-American]

I, too, find it distasteful. Out of curiosity, have you ever participated in any of the death pool threads here? I would like to think you are consistent.

I don't recall having ever submitted names for the contest.

[TripletDaddy]

I don't recall having ever submitted names for the contest.

Keep it that way or else I'm coming to get you.

[Solon]

Even the Relief Society President in a ward is just an appendage to the Priesthood. Her 12-year old son IS the Priesthood. You must have the Priesthood to preside over any Church meeting. Correct me if I'm wrong.

IIRC, when people vote/sustain leadership, a ward's Relief Society president & counselors are proposed & sustained in Sacrament meetings.
The Elders Quorum leadership is proposed & sustained in the quorum.

Men get to vote on sustaining the women's leadership.
The women have no voice in sustaining the men's (other than the roll-call at Stake Conference).

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

You stand to inherit something from your parents when they die, I assume. Do you have any actuarial tables prepared to help you anticipate their projected demise? (If you think eagerly looking forward to the day dad croaks is distasteful, don't blame me-- it's just the way estate laws are set up. Blame the system.)

We were very frustrated when my in-laws didn't die in 2010 with no limit on inheritance.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Ahhh to live a life where your worldview assumes everyone dies not only solvent, but with a surplus.

Geez. No kidding.

[Levin]

People like SoonerCoug and SU who say religion and the Church are doomed --- within the next decade, no less -- crack me up.

The prospects for faith generally, and Christianity in particular, have never looked so promising as they are today. People have such short memories. Forced amnesia to support their world views. The middle ages was not an "age of faith" any more than Robespierre's reign during the French Revolution or communism were ages of atheism. Faith has had much more serious crises -- even existential ones -- than they have now. The Church has too, of course. Much, much worse.

The reality is we are living in a miraculous age of spreading and growing faith because we live in an age of ever expanding freedom. The spread of freedom is the greatest and most powerful force for faith. As the chains of oppression have been loosened throughout the ages --- including shackles imposed during nominally "Christian" ages --- faith flourishes as people respond to the tug heavenwards that we all have, and are able to do so in an environment of freedom of thought and self-expression. Christianity is exploding in China, and will go interstellar once the Chinese government collapses or loosens faith restrictions.

And what makes you so sure that when the deadening effects of materialism reach their logical end-point in the Western Hemisphere, the trend won't reverse and people and societies won't return to the spiritual soul within themselves? These things are cyclical, yet Sooner and SU assume it is all one way.

These past few years, the arrogant cynics have found their voices empowered and magnified through anonymous forums like this, and non-anonymous forums like Facebook where they find strength from like-minded individuals, and so speak up in their attacks on faith, and make bold "predictions" like SU's. That's all for the good. More freedom and expression.

But there is one thing that humanity has that makes Sooner's and SU's grandiose pronouncements nothing but comical blabbering. It's the existence of the soul. That is the fundamental fact of existence. If provides consciousness. It draws us heavenward. It seeks understanding, enlightenment, and wonder. It draws us to each other in love. It forms unions of the heart that are stronger than anything in the physical world. Sooner and SU are Trumans living the Truman Show. Ants going about their business building their anthill thinking it is the sum and substance of existence. But missing the forests, continents, oceans, planets, galaxies, and the Universe that dwarfs their little hill.

Keep carrying your grains of sand hither and thither. But humanity has only one direction, and it's the further expansion of freedom and the exploration of the spiritual wonder that is existence. Faith -- and the Mormon Church -- will withstand the likes of Facebook and Internet Forums.

[CJF]

I, too, find it distasteful. Out of curiosity, have you ever participated in any of the death pool threads here? I would like to think you are consistent.

I hate the death pool thread.

[Northwestcoug]

Ah, I see. So you'll actually be sorry when your folks die. Good for you. Maybe you could send me your actuarial tables, so I can know when I should expect to offer my condolences.

Or maybe I should muster up half an ounce of respect and wait for the living to die before making funeral arrangements?

I see this is a touchy subject for you. Out of curiousity, do you have life insurance? Do you know what your rates are based on? If not, you may not want to research it.

[thesaint258]

IIRC, when people vote/sustain leadership, a ward's Relief Society president & counselors are proposed & sustained in Sacrament meetings.
The Elders Quorum leadership is proposed & sustained in the quorum.

Men get to vote on sustaining the women's leadership.
The women have no voice in sustaining the men's (other than the roll-call at Stake Conference).

We had ward conference today, and in the past, they've always done something like, "For your information . . ." then listed the Priesthood leadership. Today, however, they did sustaining votes for everyone, including the High Priests Group, Elders Quorum, and Aaronic Priesthood leaders. I'm not sure if that's an official change or something our high counselor did on his own.