If a female tried to get into the priesthood session of GC...

[Nakoma]

You really have no idea what you're talking about. Seriously--what do you know about science? Nova? The Science Channel? Popular Science?

Some of us know that garbage in means garbage out.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/high...-1226840120781

[Jeff Lebowski]

Some of us know that garbage in means garbage out.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/high...-1226840120781

That's funny. I love that SCIgen tool. It is amazing how well it works.

http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/scigen/

[Uncle Ted]

Letter: Let LDS men keep priesthood to themselves

A plea to those LDS women seeking the priesthood: Please stop! ("Mormon women seeking priesthood may be blocked from Temple Square," Tribune, March 17)


We as LDS men already realize that women in the church are more spiritual, better organized and more willing to serve. If the Lord were to hear your pleas and grant you the priesthood, the men in the church would soon become irrelevant.

So, please, throw us a bone. Let us men be the priesthood bearers so that we may remain valid. Thank you.


Richard R. Gladwell


Murray

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/opinion...hurch.html.csp

At first I was thinking this was sarcasm but then I realized he makes a good point.

[Topper]

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/opinion...hurch.html.csp

At first I was thinking this was sarcasm but then I realized he makes a good point.

Alternatively, what's wrong with being irrelevant? If women want the job, give it to them. It will leave more time for fishing, hunting and sports.

[SCcoug]

Alternatively, what's wrong with being irrelevant? If women want the job, give it to them. It will leave more time for fishing, hunting and sports.

You fish and hunt?

[pellegrino]

And yet that's exactly how this whole thing restarted a couple hundred years ago.

oh how far we've fallen.

[Topper]

You fish and hunt?

Infrequently. I prefer fly fishing or deep sea fishing, but I am poor at both. In fact, despite an occasional trip to a friendly river, I have rarely seen a fish caught, let alone caught one myself through fly fishing. Deep sea is easier, because the tour guys take you where you'll be successful. Why do you?

I do more pistol shooting to hunting. Too much clean up. So target practice is lots of fun.

[byu71]

You really have no idea what you're talking about. Seriously--what do you know about science? Nova? The Science Channel? Popular Science?

LOL I could say the same to you when it comes to things of faith. I am not that mean spirited though so I won't.

[Uncle Ted]

I thought this blog posting brings up a good question...

[…]
Ordain Women members:


I don’t get it. I mean, I get wanting the priesthood, but why not just leave and go to the Community of Christ. I’m not saying that you should leave, but I look at the testimony of the Book of Mormon and Joseph Smith, and say, “It’s really similar”. I mean, like your family has been shopping at Walmart for generations, but Target is in the same parking lot, and sells stuff that is very similar. Why not switch? Yes, stand where you are, but if you stop shopping at Walmart, and move your business to Target, it ALSO changes things.

I’m sure you are able to come up with reasons, but I want the point made, that you are sticking with this organization for reasons that may not be completely up to you. Perhaps it’s the peer pressure on family. Maybe you have a testimony of Mr. Monson specifically, (although I’d challenge you to pray over the leadership of the Community of Christ, after studying it out in your mind first). But I think the main reason you are staying in an organization that disrespects you and your goals is because of cultish behaviors the organization used on you.


When groups use these behaviors, even when the group is wrong about end of the world dates, people become more committed. And I’ve seen several facebook posts and Joanna Brooks statement that the church refusing to allow the protesters in has rededicated people to the cause.


Just think, Target is across the street, it’s cheaper; and you’d get beer in the deal. Just saying.
[…]

http://www.exploringmormonism.com/?p=1239

Why do the OW members stick with the LDS church? The CoC has had women with priesthood and in its leadership (including apostles) for some time.

In addition, the RLDS/CoC denounced polygamy from day one. I am taking a wild guess and assume that the OW folks are very much against the practice of polygamy as well. It is pretty obvious, at least to me anyway, that the LDS church still believes in polygamy in the here after given its policies concerning sealing cancellations and such. Maybe I am wrong and OW folks are good with the polygamy thing in the CK.

[Topper]

I thought this blog posting brings up a good question...


http://www.exploringmormonism.com/?p=1239

Why do the OW members stick with the LDS church? The CoC has had women with priesthood and in its leadership (including apostles) for some time.

In addition, the RLDS/CoC denounced polygamy from day one. I am taking a wild guess and assume that the OW folks are very much against the practice of polygamy as well. It is pretty obvious, at least to me anyway, that the LDS church still believes in polygamy in the here after given its policies concerning sealing cancellations and such. Maybe I am wrong and OW folks are good with the polygamy thing in the CK.

Do you want to be involved in something small or infinitesimally puny?

[Northwestcoug]

I thought this blog posting brings up a good question...


http://www.exploringmormonism.com/?p=1239

Why do the OW members stick with the LDS church? The CoC has had women with priesthood and in its leadership (including apostles) for some time.

In addition, the RLDS/CoC denounced polygamy from day one. I am taking a wild guess and assume that the OW folks are very much against the practice of polygamy as well. It is pretty obvious, at least to me anyway, that the LDS church still believes in polygamy in the here after given its policies concerning sealing cancellations and such. Maybe I am wrong and OW folks are good with the polygamy thing in the CK.

Some of those women are obviously hurt/offended by church policy. Why not find a place that doesn't remind them of the hurt every Sunday. But we see a similar thing on CS all the time. Lots of people bitch all the time about church, yet still value it in their lives. I think they still have to reconcile strong spiritual feelings they've had in the church. They stay, for now, because of those.

[byu71]

I thought this blog posting brings up a good question...


http://www.exploringmormonism.com/?p=1239

Why do the OW members stick with the LDS church? The CoC has had women with priesthood and in its leadership (including apostles) for some time.

In addition, the RLDS/CoC denounced polygamy from day one. I am taking a wild guess and assume that the OW folks are very much against the practice of polygamy as well. It is pretty obvious, at least to me anyway, that the LDS church still believes in polygamy in the here after given its policies concerning sealing cancellations and such. Maybe I am wrong and OW folks are good with the polygamy thing in the CK.

As an organization (religion) within which to raise kids, my bias opinion is there is no other better. In addition the cultural/family ties are especially strong. I see Jews for example who proclaim no belief in God, yet they proudly claim to be Jews. Maybe the ties aren't as strong with Mormons, but they are pretty strong.

The OW's like many in the church I would guess do not have a testimony that the brethern are guided by revelation, but they still love the organization and culture. Especially if the club became more democratic and responsive to a more progressive agenda.

[Pheidippides]

As an organization (religion) within which to raise kids, my bias opinion is there is no other better. In addition the cultural/family ties are especially strong. I see Jews for example who proclaim no belief in God, yet they proudly claim to be Jews. Maybe the ties aren't as strong with Mormons, but they are pretty strong.

The OW's like many in the church I would guess do not have a testimony that the brethern are guided by revelation, but they still love the organization and culture. Especially if the club became more democratic and responsive to a more progressive agenda.

Actually, I think the founders have been clear on this. They affirmatively believe in revelation but that the question has to be asked and the dialogue has to be had. There are certainly a ton of people who are nonbelievers in the group but Kate Kelly is not one of them as far as I can tell.

[Uncle Ted]

Some of those women are obviously hurt/offended by church policy. Why not find a place that doesn't remind them of the hurt every Sunday. But we see a similar thing on CS all the time. Lots of people bitch all the time about church, yet still value it in their lives. I think they still have to reconcile strong spiritual feelings they've had in the church. They stay, for now, because of those.

Yes, I guess that is true. Some folks haven't ventured outside of their comfort zone and noticed that there are lots of good people outside of the church given it is human nature. Rather than taking on change themselves they instead expect their world to change for them. In the end they dying while hiding in some corner because their cheese ran out.

[byu71]

Actually, I think the founders have been clear on this. They affirmatively believe in revelation but that the question has to be asked and the dialogue has to be had. There are certainly a ton of people who are nonbelievers in the group but Kate Kelly is not one of them as far as I can tell.

I guess I can understand a situation where someone believes they receive revelation, but not in every situation. I will have to admit I guess I fall into that category. I probably won't be with the group marching back to Missouri.

I guess in my simple mind for myself I just accept God allows them to be in charge and thus until he (or if God is a she she decides), I will have to accept my situation as a member.