Creator of CIA torture interrogations becomes Bishop

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  • Topper
    Pre-Historic Man
    • Nov 2011
    • 11764

    #46
    Originally posted by Solon View Post
    I dunno. I picture YOhio more along the lines of a skinny Iraqi calling Mark Wahlberg "bro" & "my main man" a lot while asking him "what is the problem with Michael Jackson" before pouring oil into his mouth.
    Skinny? Have you seen what they eat in Ohio?
    "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

    Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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    • Applejack
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 3812

      #47
      Originally posted by Topper View Post
      You said what many are afraid to voice. The torture tactics by the CIA were too docile. It appears that although they suffered mentally and were physically discomforted, which in our modern tradition is unseemly, but that they did not fear death or disfigurement. In cultures that don't shun torture, there is real, prolonged disfigurement, loss of limb and ultimately loss of life. If torture is capable of extracting information from people who had vital information, that is the only form likely to reveal it. It may be that no form extracts reliable information. I am not in a position to know. However, as you stated, your scenario is very plausible for many people.
      HAHAHA. Is this the greatest post on this board of all time? Really excellent work here, Topper, my friend.

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      • Northwestcoug
        Cocked and Loaded
        • May 2011
        • 17935

        #48
        Originally posted by Applejack View Post
        HAHAHA. Is this the greatest post on this board of all time? Really excellent work here, Topper, my friend.
        It certainly belongs in his greatest hits thread.
        "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
        "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
        - SeattleUte

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        • Topper
          Pre-Historic Man
          • Nov 2011
          • 11764

          #49
          Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
          It certainly belongs in his greatest hits thread.
          AJ and you are reading it as an advocacy for trying torture. Not so. Only for an alternate reading of the facts.
          "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

          Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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          • SeattleUte
            Faith crisis consultant
            • Nov 2008
            • 20837

            #50
            I heard on NPR that polls say 2/3 of Americans support the torture. I guess this proves Mormons aren't that different from a lot of other people.
            When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

            --Jonathan Swift

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            • creekster
              It is NOT a monkey!
              • Nov 2008
              • 22661

              #51
              Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
              I heard on NPR that polls say 2/3 of Americans support the torture. I guess this proves Mormons aren't that different from a lot of other people.
              Who are you and how did you get SU's password?
              PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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              • TheShmitty
                Junior Member
                • Dec 2014
                • 3

                #52
                Personally, I'm against torture of any kind. I think as a nation and a people that we are above that and personally I don't see how that man could be worthy of membership in good standing with the church, let alone of being a bishop.

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                • TheShmitty
                  Junior Member
                  • Dec 2014
                  • 3

                  #53
                  Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                  I heard on NPR that polls say 2/3 of Americans support the torture. I guess this proves Mormons aren't that different from a lot of other people.
                  I don't know where they get that stat or from what sample but that couldn't be farther from the truth. The only people I've heard of that support it are the far-right wingers.

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                  • Blueintheface
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 15382

                    #54
                    Originally posted by TheShmitty View Post
                    I don't know where they get that stat or from what sample but that couldn't be farther from the truth. The only people I've heard of that support it are the far-right wingers.
                    How many interviews were you able to conduct in that short week on the job?
                    "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                    "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                    • Jeff Lebowski
                      Corporate lackey for Jesus
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 69498

                      #55
                      Welcome, TheShmitty.
                      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                      "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                      • Bo Diddley
                        Senior
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 18721

                        #56
                        I'm against torture as well, though not against all harsh treatment. I have no doubt public perception on this issue is tainted by what they see on tv and in the movies.

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                        • Topper
                          Pre-Historic Man
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 11764

                          #57
                          Originally posted by TheShmitty View Post
                          Personally, I'm against torture of any kind. I think as a nation and a people that we are above that and personally I don't see how that man could be worthy of membership in good standing with the church, let alone of being a bishop.
                          This nation is above that? You gotta be kidding me. We're not above any low down, ugly sort of thing. Who are you kidding? There is very little, this country hasn't done or won't do in the future. Never underestimate the depravity of your neighbor.
                          "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                          Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                          • Sullyute
                            a day late/a dollar short
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 3308

                            #58
                            Originally posted by TheShmitty View Post
                            Personally, I'm against torture of any kind. I think as a nation and a people that we are above that and personally I don't see how that man could be worthy of membership in good standing with the church, let alone of being a bishop.
                            I think one reason may be that the church puts loyalty above morality.
                            "Friendship is the grand fundamental principle of Mormonism" - Joseph Smith Jr.

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                            • myboynoah
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 21719

                              #59
                              Well, with everyone stating their preferences, I guess I'll just come out as being FOR torture.

                              Yeah, I know, nobody is surprised by that.
                              Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                              For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                              Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                              • TheShmitty
                                Junior Member
                                • Dec 2014
                                • 3

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Sullyute View Post
                                I think one reason may be that the church puts loyalty above morality.
                                They sure do.

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