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  • Creator of CIA torture interrogations becomes Bishop

    So would you like this bishop interviewing your kids?

    Bruce Jessen was proposed by Spokane Stake President James Lee, or “called” in the terminology of the Mormon faith, to be the bishop of Spokane’s 6th Ward.

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    The appointment surprised some groups who have denounced Jessen and his then-partner James Mitchell for techniques they helped develop for the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency to interrogate suspected terrorists after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. Among those techniques were sleep deprivation and waterboarding, according to a 2009 U.S. Senate committee report.

    “I can think of no one less qualified for a position of moral and spiritual leadership,” Shahid Battar, executive director of the Bill of Rights Defense Committee, which describes itself as a national grass-roots network for civil rights, civil liberties and the rule of law.

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    Lee, however, said he interviewed Jessen about the controversy during the several-month period the psychologist was being considered for the bishop’s post, and Jessen shared some information that Lee couldn’t reveal. He believes Jessen, who has been a member of that congregation for years, is an honorable, trustworthy and humble man who will be able to help other members and keep their confidences. He is, however, “tight-lipped” about his work with the government, the stake president added.
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  • #2
    Originally posted by Sullyute View Post
    So would you like this bishop interviewing your kids?
    yes.

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    • #3
      Yes.

      He can keep a confidence, is willing to go the extra mile. Or two.

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      • #4
        Will waterboarding be allowed for temple interviews?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by edward777 View Post
          Will waterboarding be allowed for temple interviews?
          That's how confessions will be extracted. Expect to see confessions of various sins skyrocket, under threat of waterboarding.
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          • #6
            I first thought this thread was about Jay Bybee, a JRCLS classmate of mine who currently serves on the Ninth Circuit. While serving as an Asst. AG under Alberto Gonzales in the Bush Administration, he wrote the infamous Bybee Memo [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bybee_Memo[/ame] that essentially greenlighted waterboarding, sleep deprivation and other techniques regarded by many as torture.

            It's interesting that LDS Church members have had such a prominent role in CIA torture techniques.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
              It's interesting that LDS Church members have had such a prominent role in CIA torture techniques.
              It does make one wonder if LDS church teachings or culture lead members to be more willing to push the boundries of morality in circumstances where it could be argued that it was done for the greater good? (i.e. Nephi and Laban, Post manifesto polygamy, Mark Hoffman fiasco, or lying for the Lord in general.)

              However, I guess we can always fall back on the adage that "whom the Lord calls, the Lord qualifies."
              "Friendship is the grand fundamental principle of Mormonism" - Joseph Smith Jr.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                I first thought this thread was about Jay Bybee, a JRCLS classmate of mine who currently serves on the Ninth Circuit. While serving as an Asst. AG under Alberto Gonzales in the Bush Administration, he wrote the infamous Bybee Memo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bybee_Memo that essentially greenlighted waterboarding, sleep deprivation and other techniques regarded by many as torture.

                It's interesting that LDS Church members have had such a prominent role in CIA torture techniques.
                That's actually who I thought of as well when I saw the thread title. I was already formulating arguments about how Bybee wasn't the creator of any torture techniques. I guess my righteous indignation was wasted here. I feel that Bybee gets blamed a lot whenever torture is discussed, but all he did was write memos re: the legality of the "enhanced interrogation" techniques, not the morality of it.
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                • #9
                  One of the councilors in our bishopric was an interrogator in Vietnam. Nobody makes much fuss about that, maybe because he is Canadian.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Sullyute View Post
                    So would you like this bishop interviewing your kids?
                    I'm not real keen on this.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Sullyute View Post
                      “I can think of no one less qualified for a position of moral and spiritual leadership,”

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                      • #12
                        I suppose this has been mentioned elsewhere, but I was surprised to learn that at least per Wikipedia, Jessen resigned as bishop one week after being sustained as bishop in 2012. I would love to know the details.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                          I suppose this has been mentioned elsewhere, but I was surprised to learn that at least per Wikipedia, Jessen resigned as bishop one week after being sustained as bishop in 2012. I would love to know the details.
                          Having to sit there and listen to all those women complain about their husbands porn problem was down right...well...torturous.
                          I told him he was a goddamn Nazi Stormtrooper.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                            I suppose this has been mentioned elsewhere, but I was surprised to learn that at least per Wikipedia, Jessen resigned as bishop one week after being sustained as bishop in 2012. I would love to know the details.
                            Public outcry from what I understand. Ward members?
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Dwight Schr-ute View Post
                              Having to sit there and listen to all those women complain about their husbands porn problem was down right...well...torturous.
                              hehe

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