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  • This is going to be a PR nightmare if the media runs with it!
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    • Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
      Damn, those are some serious issues that need to be dealt with quickly. YW, DDD (please recognize the comma).
      When the YW president told me about it I asked her why she didn't just ask them to leave. Apparently it's a PH responsibility to kick missionaries out of YW classes?
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      • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
        When the YW president told me about it I asked her why she didn't just ask them to leave. Apparently it's a PH responsibility to kick missionaries out of YW classes?
        I am confused. Why does it matter where they attend?
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        • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
          I am confused. Why does it matter where they attend?
          they arent just attending. they are attending sans invitation.
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          • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
            When the YW president told me about it I asked her why she didn't just ask them to leave. Apparently it's a PH responsibility to kick missionaries out of YW classes?
            I don't know what your YW president's problem is. When I was YM president the missionaries showed up to the lesser priesthood class once and I had them teach. While they were teaching I went and got some donuts.
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            • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
              I don't know what your YW president's problem is. When I was YM president the missionaries showed up to the lesser priesthood class once and I had them teach. While they were teaching I went and got some donuts.
              Just out of curiosity, were the donuts just for you or for the class? Either way, seems like a justifiable course of action.
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              • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                I am confused. Why does it matter where they attend?
                Did you not learn anything from the Ordain Women fiasco?

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                • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                  I am confused. Why does it matter where they attend?
                  How about you take a stand and stop acting so aloof?

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                  • Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                    How about you take a stand and stop acting so aloof?
                    I am seeking first to understand. Then I will seek to be understood.

                    I am surprised you don't know about this technique.
                    "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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                    • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                      I am confused. Why does it matter where they attend?
                      Our bishop would prefer they attend RS so that the adults in the ward can get to know them better or at least see them. They are also apparently pretty disruptive during the YW lessons. Most YM leaders wouldn't care as much if tangents are taken during lessons, but YW leaders tend to care a bit about that. Also, because of the social awkwardness I think the YW leaders just don't want them there and so this is an easy way to get them out.

                      Personally I have an issue with it as I don't want added pressure put on the YW to serve a mission. I want that option there for my daughters if they choose, but having the missionaries constantly attending and talking about their missions is a bit different in YW than it is in YM, where the boys are expected to serve.

                      There are other more private reasons, but the ones above are reason enough for me to support the bishop's wishes.
                      "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                      • Originally posted by Sullyute View Post
                        Just out of curiosity, were the donuts just for you or for the class? Either way, seems like a justifiable course of action.
                        Just me. The YW had some in the kitchen.
                        "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                        "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                        "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                        • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                          Our bishop would prefer they attend RS so that the adults in the ward can get to know them better or at least see them. They are also apparently pretty disruptive during the YW lessons. Most YM leaders wouldn't care as much if tangents are taken during lessons, but YW leaders tend to care a bit about that. Also, because of the social awkwardness I think the YW leaders just don't want them there and so this is an easy way to get them out.

                          Personally I have an issue with it as I don't want added pressure put on the YW to serve a mission. I want that option there for my daughters if they choose, but having the missionaries constantly attending and talking about their missions is a bit different in YW than it is in YM, where the boys are expected to serve.

                          There are other more private reasons, but the ones above are reason enough for me to support the bishop's wishes.
                          I'd like to hear the private reasons. Your public reasons are unpersuasive.
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                          • By the way, what happened to the rule that missionaries couldn't attend priesthood/relief society and sunday school unless they had an investigator present? Get out there and find people to teach!
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                            • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                              Our bishop would prefer they attend RS so that the adults in the ward can get to know them better or at least see them. They are also apparently pretty disruptive during the YW lessons. Most YM leaders wouldn't care as much if tangents are taken during lessons, but YW leaders tend to care a bit about that. Also, because of the social awkwardness I think the YW leaders just don't want them there and so this is an easy way to get them out.

                              Personally I have an issue with it as I don't want added pressure put on the YW to serve a mission. I want that option there for my daughters if they choose, but having the missionaries constantly attending and talking about their missions is a bit different in YW than it is in YM, where the boys are expected to serve.

                              There are other more private reasons, but the ones above are reason enough for me to support the bishop's wishes.
                              With all due respect, those are all pretty lousy reasons.
                              "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                              "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                              "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                              • Originally posted by Sullyute View Post
                                By the way, what happened to the rule that missionaries couldn't attend priesthood/relief society and sunday school unless they had an investigator present? Get out there and find people to teach!
                                Where have you been? Missionaries don't track any more. Heck, they even have iPads.
                                "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                                "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                                "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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