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  • #31
    Originally posted by JohnnyLingo View Post
    Interesting take. What exactly do you mean by "selling limited twisted aspects of the gospel"?
    I mean that Beck takes something and twists it to mean what he wants, then uses that stance to flag wave to the religious right and make money.

    Didn't this guy make his national name on Shiavo? Where he was one of the loud and proud "all life is sacred" grandstanders? How about when he talked about the people that hated America were the ones who had their homes burn in California? Sounds a lot like the wicked being punished.

    By gospel I meant of Jesus, not just the LDS gospel. Isn't that pretty much what the religious right has done in alienating many from the GOP? Beck is just the latest in the "God bless America" crowd.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by JohnnyLingo View Post
      What happened?
      The big thing was that even with all the organizational effort, there were lots of students that didn't have theirs ready and they used the cafeteria resources anyways.

      It just wasn't worth the effort. They have since asked for emergency supplies donations, but don't have the students keep their on stuff anymore. It is just a reduced general supply now.

      Here's what the school said right after the fact:

      As we experienced the snow storm last week with over 100 people in the school until about 10:00 pm, we were very glad several of the students here had Emergency Essential Kits they were willing to share with others. The caterer, Dry Creek Foods, was also contacted and allowed us to use some of the food in the kitchen to cook dinner for everyone. This is a great example of being prepared. If your student was here last Wednesday, you may need to replenish their kit. If you have not sent in an Emergency Essentials Kit for your student, please do so....

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      • #33
        Originally posted by beefytee View Post
        My son's school had 72 hour kits for them at school, until the snow storm struck last year at point of the mountain and some of the kids got stranded at school overnight.

        At that point they judged them useless and got rid of them.
        stuck at school overnight? where does he go to school? Little House on the Prarie? Most schools are within a reasonable distance of a home, even if it is not their own home.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
          stuck at school overnight? where does he go to school? Little House on the Prarie? Most schools are within a reasonable distance of a home, even if it is not their own home.
          You must be from California.

          Apparently I was wrong about overnight. It was only until 10.PM I believe their were other schools in the area where buses had to turn around and go back to the school and they were there stuck over night.

          This is a charter school though and I don't think most of the kids live close to it. We don't live that close. But my kid did make it home on time.

          Traverse mountain can be pretty nasty during a snow storm. They have to shut down the Alphine highway quite often.

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          • #35
            The big thing was that even with all the organizational effort, there were lots of students that didn't have theirs ready and they used the cafeteria resources anyways.
            So... they were sort of needed, but a lot of the parents didn't follow the plan, and in the end, they just used the cafeteria anyway. I'm not sure what to take from that.

            I mean that Beck takes something and twists it to mean what he wants, then uses that stance to flag wave to the religious right and make money.
            I assume what you wrote next works as examples of this.

            Didn't this guy make his national name on Shiavo? Where he was one of the loud and proud "all life is sacred" grandstanders?
            I know he was a major figure in the "keep Terri Schiavo alive" movement, but that was a hugely controversial issue, as evidenced by the fact that when CG was created, there was a "no Schiavo talk" rule in Current Events. It's not as though he were espousing a return to slavery or something black and white. He took a side on an issue... I fail to see how that is a problem.

            How about when he talked about the people that hated America were the ones who had their homes burn in California? Sounds a lot like the wicked being punished.
            Here's the quote:

            "I think there is a handful of people who hate America. Unfortunately for them, a lot of them are losing their homes in a forest fire today."

            It's a stupid thing to say, but it's not exactly him declaring the fires were sent from God to cleanse the land.

            By gospel I meant of Jesus, not just the LDS gospel. Isn't that pretty much what the religious right has done in alienating many from the GOP? Beck is just the latest in the "God bless America" crowd.
            I think I'll need some more examples before I subscribe to this line of thinking. So far you haven't made much of a case that Beck is merely a televangelist.

            Disclaimer: I like Beck. Sometimes he says stuff I think is nuts and I turn him off, but for the most part, I think he's a good guy who believes what he says and is doing what he thinks is right, and that counts for a lot in my book.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
              Some places me be closed when the world comes to an end. Also, I would imagine that the open places will be packed.
              A few years back a nor'easter hit the Mid-Atlantic and we were all snowed in for 2-3 days. We'd run to the store prior to the storm along with everyone else in town and stocked up on milk, bread, and toilet paper, so we were okay. Spent much of the time watching Donner Party vidoes.

              Anyway, after they dug us out, our first inclination was to go out to eat someplace. Sure enough, there was a two-hour wait at every decent place in town. Just happy to be out of the house, we sat down and waited.
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              For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by JohnnyLingo View Post
                I think I'll need some more examples before I subscribe to this line of thinking. So far you haven't made much of a case that Beck is merely a televangelist.

                Disclaimer: I like Beck. Sometimes he says stuff I think is nuts and I turn him off, but for the most part, I think he's a good guy who believes what he says and is doing what he thinks is right, and that counts for a lot in my book.
                I am all for people doing what they want, you like Beck I am not going to try and talk you out of it. I gave you two examples that I could think of without having to do any research, I feel he leans hard on being a "good Christian" to defend his political stance and that turns me off. I did not mean he was a televangelist. This stance taken by him and others seem to be prevelant in the current GOP, and it bothers me.

                Clearly lots of people like him as he is successful in his field, if you like him keep watching and supporting his sponsors. I choose not to.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
                  Clearly lots of people like him as he is successful in his field, if you like him keep watching and supporting his sponsors. I choose not to.
                  Fair enough. To each his own.

                  I feel he leans hard on being a "good Christian" to defend his political stance and that turns me off.
                  But isn't that the same thing as leaning on any belief system to defend a political stance? Or is using a background in Christianity to define your political beliefs more offensive than using a belief system based on something else, like Marxism or progressive ideals (I am not equating the two)?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by JohnnyLingo View Post
                    But isn't that the same thing as leaning on any belief system to defend a political stance? Or is using a background in Christianity to define your political beliefs more offensive than using a belief system based on something else, like Marxism or progressive ideals (I am not equating the two)?
                    Where I find a difference is that I don't hear people on the left talking about being a good Marxist. I have no problem with basing ones political beliefs on their religious beliefs. It is the attitude that one can not be a good (insert religious belief) if they do not believe (insert political belief), or vice versa.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
                      Where I find a difference is that I don't hear people on the left talking about being a good Marxist. I have no problem with basing ones political beliefs on their religious beliefs. It is the attitude that one can not be a good (insert religious belief) if they do not believe (insert political belief), or vice versa.
                      So the judging bothers you.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
                        Where I find a difference is that I don't hear people on the left talking about being a good Marxist.
                        Marxists are so few in number, they can't afford to be choosy. They seek out the paranoid, pathologically jaded and Ivy League educated wherever they can.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Soccermom View Post
                          My definition is simple. A doomsayer about food storage predicts eminent disasters and catastrophes over and over again. Their whole reasoning in being prepared is that we will face a disaster. A non-doomsayer teaches us to be prepared just in case something goes wrong. The non-doomsayer doesn't feel the need to bring it up every single week.

                          Stockpiling guns and ammo in addition to food is another indication.
                          "It's true that everything happens for a reason. Just remember that sometimes that reason is that you did something really, really, stupid."

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
                            Marxists are so few in number, they can't afford to be choosy. They seek out the paranoid, pathologically jaded and Ivy League educated wherever they can.
                            Pathologically-jaded? What does that even mean?

                            I know several Marxist, and they are none of what you mentioned, nor do they seek out those people. They do find common ground with many well-educated people, because, heaven forbid, those people actually read and think about policies and ideas and how they affect others. There's a reason that many well-educated people are liberals or moderates, and it doesn't have a damned thing to do with indoctrination.

                            I'm no Marxist, not even close, but the Marxists I know are decent hard-working human beings who think that their ideas can make an end of suffering. They donate tons of their time and money to charity and they give away many of their ideas to the public domain. One of my best friends is a Leftist Marxist and I'd trust him with my life.
                            "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                            The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by beefytee View Post
                              Maybe I will start stockpiling gold bars in my basement.
                              Because if there's one thing I'll need in an emergency situation, it's a nice shiny gold bar.

                              This fixation on the outdated (and thus discarded) gold standard by the far right is very odd. I smell a rat.
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                              • #45
                                My mother in law literally has a small grocery store in her basement. Her idea of food storage is to store items you need and that you'll use in your every day life, but to backfill it as you find good deals. My wife has started doing this as well.

                                One thing I hadn't thought of in terms of the economic situation was the period of time when gas was approaching $5.00 a gallon and as a result certain groceries were going up.

                                I guess the point there is that if you build up a food storage of things you'll eat, and the prices go up, those items won't be as much of a necessity to you.

                                If it weren't for my wife, I'm not sure food storage would be on my radar.
                                "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

                                Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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