Mass resignation event tomorrow (6/30/12)

[UtahDan]

Sorry. Seemed a little cheezy in retrospect. Besides, I am trying to cut back on smilies in an attempt to reactivate Pelagius.

It was too late in any case. You can't take back a hug. But that is a noble goal you are talking about there.

[Ma'ake]

The church doesn't stage media events, ads, or promotional materials based on the concept of rejecting other religions.

I think more than a few offended members of other religions would disagree. Rejecting other religions is a foundational premise of the church, si? Everyone else was so messed up God (and Jesus) had to visit Joseph Smith and get things straightened out. Some people get angry at that suggestion.

The media event could be seen as objectionable. That's understandable.

Though I'd imagine the reaction would be more vigorous if some group of ex-Mos felt the need to "save" Mormons by going door to door. It would be even less well received than the Baptist effort to "save" Mormons from a few years ago, going door to door with DVDs.

Who could get angry at somebody trying to "save" someone else?

[creekster]

I've told you before and it doesn't compute for you. Assume that I and others are rational and speculate about it a little. I think that has a better chance to get you closer to understanding than anything I might say.

You're right; it makes no sense to me. Your restatement is fine, as far as it goes, but that doesn't seem to describe what is happening. It does not describe, for example, the conferences nor the mass resignation event.

Furthermore, I more readily comprehend wanting to stay a part of a group that is united in a belief or a goal, but if I am to believe your description of the non-mos they have no uniting belief and they have no decided anti-mo goal so they are grouping together in order to do what, exactly? it's like anti-spiritual limbo. As long as they are hanging around (putting aside any who might believe they are gaining prestige or something else from the venture) they are never really moving on. Defining yourself as no-longer-Mormon is really just the other side of the coin from being Mormon. Why not go be something else?

[UtahDan]

You're right; it makes no sense to me. Your restatement is fine, as far as it goes, but that doesn't seem to describe what is happening. It does not describe, for example, the conferences nor the mass resignation event.

Furthermore, I more readily comprehend wanting to stay a part of a group that is united in a belief or a goal, but if I am to believe your description of the non-mos they have no uniting belief and they have no decided anti-mo goal so they are grouping together in order to do what, exactly? it's like anti-spiritual limbo. As long as they are hanging around (putting aside any who might believe they are gaining prestige or something else from the venture) they are never really moving on. Defining yourself as no-longer-Mormon is really just the other side of the coin from being Mormon. Why not go be something else?

You are not far off. What you are not seeing is that is a way station. People do move on, see the Larsens above. It takes time though.

[creekster]

You are not far off. What you are not seeing is that is a way station. People do move on, see the Larsens above. It takes time though.

Are the Larsens the ones in this mass-resignation? Curious (and immature) way of moving on, finally, if so. But I guess that just takes us back to the beginning of the thread.,

[myboynoah]

Now, where the hell are my friends so I can talk some football. Sizzle, Junk, HL? you guys around. I could really use some sports talk right now.

This.

[UtahDan]

Are the Larsens the ones in this mass-resignation? Curious (and immature) way of moving on, finally, if so. But I guess that just takes us back to the beginning of the thread.,

For a moment I thought there was a constructive purpose here...

[lambdacoug]

I think offensive and disrespectful are different. I consider what happens on this board disrespecful.

I think most exmo's are disrespectful. A few on this board aren't, a few are.

UD is one that isn't. Just wanted to throw that out there.

Of course you think most exmos are disrespectful.

[myboynoah]

Of course you think most exmos are disrespectful.

Yes, because that's probably been his experience when those that have left The Church talk about The Church and its members.

[lambdacoug]

You are not far off. What you are not seeing is that is a way station. People do move on, see the Larsens above. It takes time though.

And the length of the stay at the way station varies according to each individual experience. There is nothing wrong taking longer than someone else to fully detach. Some never do. That's why this idea mormons have that exmos should completely detach in short order is utterly ridiculous.

[lambdacoug]

Yes, because that's probably been his experience when those that have left The Church talk about The Church and its members.

That is obviously because only asshats and unhealthy people that can't get over things leave the Mormon church.

[DrumNFeather]

Are the Larsens the ones in this mass-resignation? Curious (and immature) way of moving on, finally, if so. But I guess that just takes us back to the beginning of the thread.,

As I understand it, they did not sign or send in their letters...is this correct UD? Is this like national signing day for religion? Is there some atheist group out there waiting on its star recruits to finally sign in their letters and send them in?

[DrumNFeather]

It seems our dust up this year is pretty tame.

I left the church in 1991. Didn't believe in any of it. There was no God, No Son, No Holy Ghost. I wasn't sad, I had some good times in church and it along with my family had laid down the foundation for me to build upon. I didn't say a word to anyone about my leaving. I made no speech or decree. When my mother would ask me if I was going I would say no and move on. If she ever tried to give me a church speech, I let her, knowing that she loved me and was just doing what she thought was best for me. When I converted back to Mormonism in 2002, I made no speech then either.

That is why I don't understand these displays. To me they lack courage and conviction to stand on their own beliefs and look for support from others, much like relying on others testimonies. To me they lack consideration for those around them, who only want the best for them.

Now, where the hell are my friends so I can talk some football. Sizzle, Junk, HL? you guys around. I could really use some sports talk right now.

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[UtahDan]

As I understand it, they did not sign or send in their letters...is this correct UD? Is this like national signing day for religion? Is there some atheist group out there waiting on its star recruits to finally sign in their letters and send them in?

What I understand is that a they received a number of requests from people out of town who wanted to add to the mailing en mass (that is for you Moliere) and they decided to hold the mailing until tomorrow to give the stragglers time to arrive.

[myboynoah]

That is obviously because only asshats and unhealthy people that can't get over things leave the Mormon church.

I don't think he said that. It's probably just that too often the asshats are the most vocal in their asshatedness. They're giving the others a bad name.