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  • #31
    Originally posted by SoCalCoug View Post
    I've seen this principle floated before. The problem is, as soon as you start to make an argument that there is any correlation between anything "liberal" and IQ, you get shouted down by the dumbasses.
    I really think it's troll bait and that's why nobody has responded. I agree with the sentiment, though.
    "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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    • #32
      Originally posted by SoCalCoug View Post
      I've seen this principle floated before. The problem is, as soon as you start to make an argument that there is any correlation between anything "liberal" and IQ, you get shouted down by the dumbasses.
      Referring to LA Ute as a dumbass is a little harsh, don't you think?
      "In conclusion, let me give a shout-out to dirty sex. What a great thing it is" - Northwestcoug
      "And you people wonder why you've had extermination orders issued against you." - landpoke
      "Can't . . . let . . . foolish statements . . . by . . . BYU fans . . . go . . . unanswered . . . ." - LA Ute

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      • #33
        Originally posted by DU Ute View Post
        Referring to LA Ute as a dumbass is a little harsh, don't you think?
        I like to think of him as a mischievous badger.
        "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

        "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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        • #34
          Originally posted by DU Ute View Post
          Referring to LA Ute as a dumbass is a little harsh, don't you think?
          Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
          I like to think of him as a mischievous badger.
          “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
          ― W.H. Auden


          "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
          -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


          "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
          --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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          • #35
            Originally posted by SoCalCoug View Post
            I've seen this principle floated before. The problem is, as soon as you start to make an argument that there is any correlation between anything "liberal" and IQ, you get shouted down by the dumbasses.
            I am not saying religion itself and IQ are correlated in a negative way. Okay sure, if you go to a nudist resort and test the average IQ of the members I am quite certain the IQ would be much higher than one would find at a Walmart shoppers convention but that has nothing to do with religion in my opinion.

            The thing is, there is scientific research that has pinpointed genes that are associated with being both into novelty as well as for sexuality that pushes the limits of "normalcy." People with these genes also tend to be more intelligent. How religion COULD be a factor here is if a woman likes to dress in latex and smack her priesthood holder with a whip she might become less likely to want to connect to her religion if it tells her she is sinning. So there you have the alienation factor.

            I once knew a beautiful LDS girl who admitted to me she wished she could go naked all the time if it were allowed and once asked me if I thought it was normal for a woman to like guys and girls. Of course I was in a more Peter Priesthood phase of my life and gave her the standard replies that would have made Elder Bednar proud: I thought the latter question was just out of
            intellectual curiosity.

            She was one of those super active young women but she did not date much; she admitted once that she had problems controlling her libido and was afraid of violating her covenants. Not sure if that was merely an excuse. Well, even though this gal was really into children and such I ran across her profile on facebook and found she was still single although she is now past the normal period of childbearing even if she married. I have generally believed that men who have a problem with their libido might become Catholic priests to repress the urges. Do you think we have a few LDS women who do likewise?

            Now back to IQ and religion. I actually believe the LDS faith tends to facilitate a rise in overall IQ in its population. First, it takes people who are willing to buck society to join us and once a member a person has to have a certain degree of intellect to study and advance. And I believe that we and Orthodox Jews are the only religious groups in the US that its more educated classes tend to have the largest families -- thus increasing the number of people with higher IQ genes. The only danger is that people might feel alienated if they engage in sex that is considered atypical in their group or they may have to repress their desires and thus become unhappy. Any thoughts?
            Last edited by edward777; 06-18-2012, 11:05 PM.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by marsupial View Post
              In addition to blindness and dead kittens, masturbation leads to poor spelling.
              My life is living proof that the above statement is false.
              "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
              The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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              • #37
                Natasha gets more specific and takes the position it is not a sin, which takes some guts for her I think. Astonishing that in 2012 this is controversial to anyone.

                http://www.patheos.com/blogs/mormont...turbation.html

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
                  Natasha gets more specific and takes the position it is not a sin, which takes some guts for her I think. Astonishing that in 2012 this is controversial to anyone.

                  http://www.patheos.com/blogs/mormont...turbation.html
                  Especially when within the last 6 months I’ve known of two LDS adolescent boys referred to the addictions program offered by the church because they masturbate 1-3 times a week and three LDS adolescent clients tell me they believe their masturbatory behavior to be a sin next to murder!!! If this is what we are teaching our youth – then we are emotionally abusing them. And it needs to stop.
                  When it comes to addictions, I think Mormons have a paranoia. Porn, masturbation, alcohol... Any time these things are involved, it is quite often almost immediately assumed that the "guilty" party is addicted.

                  She's right. The emotional abuse, not only of our adolescents, but also adults
                  needs to stop.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Portland Ute View Post
                    When it comes to addictions, I think Mormons have a paranoia. Porn, masturbation, alcohol... Any time these things are involved, it is quite often almost immediately assumed that the "guilty" party is addicted.

                    She's right. The emotional abuse, not only of our adolescents, but also adults
                    needs to stop.
                    There is nothing wrong for a little or a lot of over-indulgence between adult partners, in fact it is healthy and to be recommended!
                    "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                    Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Portland Ute View Post
                      When it comes to addictions, I think Mormons have a paranoia. Porn, masturbation, alcohol... Any time these things are involved, it is quite often almost immediately assumed that the "guilty" party is addicted.

                      She's right. The emotional abuse, not only of our adolescents, but also adults
                      needs to stop.
                      Very much agree.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Portland Ute View Post
                        When it comes to addictions, I think Mormons have a paranoia. Porn, masturbation, alcohol... Any time these things are involved, it is quite often almost immediately assumed that the "guilty" party is addicted.

                        She's right. The emotional abuse, not only of our adolescents, but also adults
                        needs to stop.
                        These attitudes are only making the addiction problems worse
                        "In conclusion, let me give a shout-out to dirty sex. What a great thing it is" - Northwestcoug
                        "And you people wonder why you've had extermination orders issued against you." - landpoke
                        "Can't . . . let . . . foolish statements . . . by . . . BYU fans . . . go . . . unanswered . . . ." - LA Ute

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                        • #42
                          Good for her.
                          "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                          "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                          "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by DU Ute View Post
                            These attitudes are only making the addiction problems worse
                            Definitely.

                            You take normal, non-addictive behaviors and bludgeon someone into feeling immense guilt and low self-esteem.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by DU Ute View Post
                              These attitudes are only making the addiction problems worse
                              Originally posted by Portland Ute View Post
                              Definitely.

                              You take normal, non-addictive behaviors and bludgeon someone into feeling immense guilt and low self-esteem.
                              That's right. Surely there must be somebody to blame.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Babs View Post
                                That's right. Surely there must be somebody to blame.
                                Blame it on the rain.

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