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How do you feel about this LDS therapist's advice?
Man though the questioner is a messed up woman. Giving her husband sex every Monday? Worried that her husband will be aroused by her? No wonder the husband turned to porn.
I find the widespread inability to spell masturbation the most disturbing thing about those comments.
In addition to blindness and dead kittens, masturbation leads to poor spelling.
What's to explain? It's a bunch of people, most of whom you've never met, who are just as likely to be homicidal maniacs as they are to be normal everyday people, with whom you share the minutiae of your everyday life. It's totally normal, and everyone would understand.
-Teenage Dirtbag
Man though the questioner is a messed up woman. Giving her husband sex every Monday? Worried that her husband will be aroused by her? No wonder the husband turned to porn.
It's a sad commentary on the messages of morality received by the members of the church.
If you click ahead, there is a question from a man who is afraid that his wife is being too seductive... that she is becoming pornography.
What's to explain? It's a bunch of people, most of whom you've never met, who are just as likely to be homicidal maniacs as they are to be normal everyday people, with whom you share the minutiae of your everyday life. It's totally normal, and everyone would understand.
-Teenage Dirtbag
It's interesting the way this therapist gives advice that would be acceptable to even pretty orthodox LDS folks. In another one she advises couples that have a hard time getting revved up for sex to read "erotic poetry" or watch the movie The Notebook (rated PG-13).
I choose to believe that these folks are outliers. I don't want to believe they are not.
“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
I choose to believe that these folks are outliers. I don't want to believe they are not.
You can believe what you like but I don't think that tremendous guilt surrounding masturbation for Mormon women is reserved only for the outliers. I doubt the wife's reaction to her husband's porn use is outside of the norm for Mormon women either. And from many comments I have heard over the years from Mormon women and from you guys on the board about your wives, I am under the impression that too many Mormon women are not enjoying sex like they should. I suspect the reason for this is because they simply don't know how to enjoy sex. Some mistakenly think that it's really not even something they are supposed to enjoy. It's actually really sad to me that the messages these women have received all their lives on morality have made them miss out on one of life's most amazing experiences.
What's to explain? It's a bunch of people, most of whom you've never met, who are just as likely to be homicidal maniacs as they are to be normal everyday people, with whom you share the minutiae of your everyday life. It's totally normal, and everyone would understand.
-Teenage Dirtbag
This is one of those threads to bookmark and refer back to when you need a little pick-me-up on the circumstances of your own life/mind. Why do people do this to themselves?
You can believe what you like but I don't think that tremendous guilt surrounding masturbation for Mormon women is reserved only for the outliers. I doubt the wife's reaction to her husband's porn use is outside of the norm for Mormon women either. And from many comments I have heard over the years from Mormon women and from you guys on the board about your wives, I am under the impression that too many Mormon women are not enjoying sex like they should. I suspect the reason for this is because they simply don't know how to enjoy sex. Some mistakenly think that it's really not even something they are supposed to enjoy. It's actually really sad to me that the messages these women have received all their lives on morality have made them miss out on one of life's most amazing experiences.
Where do they dig up these women? I've never dated a girl who wasn't a freak.
"I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"
You can believe what you like but I don't think that tremendous guilt surrounding masturbation for Mormon women is reserved only for the outliers. I doubt the wife's reaction to her husband's porn use is outside of the norm for Mormon women either. And from many comments I have heard over the years from Mormon women and from you guys on the board about your wives, I am under the impression that too many Mormon women are not enjoying sex like they should. I suspect the reason for this is because they simply don't know how to enjoy sex. Some mistakenly think that it's really not even something they are supposed to enjoy. It's actually really sad to me that the messages these women have received all their lives on morality have made them miss out on one of life's most amazing experiences.
I was responding to your statement:
If you click ahead, there is a question from a man who is afraid that his wife is being too seductive... that she is becoming pornography.
You cannot make a convincing argument that such people are not outliers.
“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
You cannot make a convincing argument that such people are not outliers.
Oh, for sure. He is an outlier. But the other scenarios? Pretty typical.
What's to explain? It's a bunch of people, most of whom you've never met, who are just as likely to be homicidal maniacs as they are to be normal everyday people, with whom you share the minutiae of your everyday life. It's totally normal, and everyone would understand.
-Teenage Dirtbag
The weird thing is that the therapist's suggestions seem really positive towards sex and intimacy yet the people criticizing her approach demonstrate attitudes of judgement and distrust. I tend to hand out with fairly well educated LDS people and so most of the people I know have pretty liberal attitudes towards sex within marriage. I suspect the people who are so critical in her replies are not so high up on the IQ scale.
The weird thing is that the therapist's suggestions seem really positive towards sex and intimacy yet the people criticizing her approach demonstrate attitudes of judgement and distrust. I tend to hand out with fairly well educated LDS people and so most of the people I know have pretty liberal attitudes towards sex within marriage. I suspect the people who are so critical in her replies are not so high up on the IQ scale.
I've seen this principle floated before. The problem is, as soon as you start to make an argument that there is any correlation between anything "liberal" and IQ, you get shouted down by the dumbasses.
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