Unlike SU's limited newsfeed, I read every newspaper, all of 'em. Since my worldview is shaped by the press, the initial quips about Dr. King seem similar in quality to the cinematic values present in the Mohammed movie, and wuap's tirade is a corrective similar in wisdom and restraint to the resulting riots. There is nothing new under the sun.
The Marriage(s)(?) of Jesus
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Congratulations. That's very impressive. I am sure you are very proud.Originally posted by Topper View PostI am very good at violating rules of social behavior, because rules are made to be broken, especially on the golf course or during a football game. Others make the rules, I intend to break them.
It was not to set the rules but to explain that being a "jerk" requires the object needs to be aware of your behavior. If the object is absent, you are merely being social incorrect and rude. There are variants of social misbehavior. I have mastered most of them.PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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Let me see if I understand your point:Originally posted by SeattleUte View PostI find her look of triumph holding a FOURTH century scrap of parchment that is smaller than a business card preserved in a square of glass in which she thinks she reads “Jesus said to them, ‘My wife ...’ ” to be, well, a little obnoxious. As if this sheds any light at all on the historical Jesus. Leave aside the cryptic nature of the document, by the fourth century the Christians had long been making up all kinds of fictions about Jesus. The whole thing makes me want to scream BFD. 3D may not appreciate why he's annoyed at her, but if I know him, and I think I do, he finds this whole thing grating in the same way. If you make this kind of celebrity grab people are going to critique you.
you look at the photo and article, feel vaguely uneasy about the situation but cant really put your finger on it. So you decide to call her so ugly that no one could possibly love her enough to marry her and call it good. Your work is done!
Clever.PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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This reminds me of that viral Susan Boyle video from a couple of years ago. People emailed it all over the globe with titles like, "Inspiring" or "Don't judge a book by its cover." These were all attempts to share a noble message but in reality they revealed a patronizing, judgmental attitude on behalf of those sending the video.Originally posted by creekster View PostLet me see if I understand your point:
you look at the photo and article, feel vaguely uneasy about the situation but cant really put your finger on it. So you decide to call her so ugly that no one could possibly love her enough to marry her and call it good. Your work is done!
Clever.
The real message behind the initial Susan Boyle hubbub was, "This woman is really ugly but she has talent. I wasn't expecting that. Watch this video."
Here we have a photo of a woman that might fit a similar mold. No comment is made about her appearance, although it is clear that a lot of inferences were made. People jump up to protest but the protesters are the ones that make the most blatant emphasis on this woman's attractiveness. How can you protest something that was never said unless you, yourself feel that this woman is unattractive?
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For sometimes being quite humorous, you often limit the range of your sense of humor.Originally posted by creekster View PostCongratulations. That's very impressive. I am sure you are very proud."Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."
Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.
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Good point. I forgot to add this to my original post:Originally posted by TripletDaddy View PostThis reminds me of that viral Susan Boyle video from a couple of years ago. People emailed it all over the globe with titles like, "Inspiring" or "Don't judge a book by its cover." These were all attempts to share a noble message but in reality they revealed a patronizing, judgmental attitude on behalf of those sending the video.
The real message behind the initial Susan Boyle hubbub was, "This woman is really ugly but she has talent. I wasn't expecting that. Watch this video."
Here we have a photo of a woman that might fit a similar mold. No comment is made about her appearance, although it is clear that a lot of inferences were made. People jump up to protest but the protesters are the ones that make the most blatant emphasis on this woman's attractiveness. How can you protest something that was never said unless you, yourself feel that this woman is unattractive?
Then when called on it you pretend that all you really meant to say was that she must not have time to date! This plan is comedy gold! GOLD!PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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Originally posted by Topper View PostHe called him a word which you have never uttered.
Pendejo means in my limited Spanish, "motherfucker". Now, wuap will complain he was intending another of its supposed meanings.
1. adj. coloq. Tonto, estúpido. U. t. c. s. 2. adj. coloq. Cobarde, pusilánime. U. t. c. s. 3. adj. coloq. De vida irregular y desordenada. U. t. c. s.
I know exactly what the words I use mean, and I mean all of those, especially #8. But, I also have no qualms about using a stronger word, like your mistranslation, when it's called for. Given your posts on Cougarguard I didn't reckon you for a translation literalist, trying to infuse latent English meaning into a word that has neither the same connotation nor definition in English. Neither "mother" nor "fucker" can be subsumed into "pendejo."
Originally posted by Topper View PostI am very good at violating rules of social behavior, because rules are made to be broken, especially on the golf course or during a football game. Others make the rules, I intend to break them.
It was not to set the rules but to explain that being a "jerk" requires the object needs to be aware of your behavior. If the object is absent, you are merely being social incorrect and rude. There are variants of social misbehavior. I have mastered most of them.

Facile. Like the gatekeeping has never entered into newsmaking. The media do a great job of framing stories to suit their narratives, including convincing someone to be photographed holding something, without an agent present to help them consider the intertext it will produce.Originally posted by SeattleUte View PostI find her look of triumph holding a FOURTH century scrap of parchment that is smaller than a business card preserved in a square of glass in which she thinks she reads “Jesus said to them, ‘My wife ...’ ” to be, well, a little obnoxious. As if this sheds any light at all on the historical Jesus. Leave aside the cryptic nature of the document, by the fourth century the Christians had long been making up all kinds of fictions about Jesus. The whole thing makes me want to scream BFD. 3D may not appreciate why he's annoyed at her, but if I know him, and I think I do, he finds this whole thing grating in the same way. If you make this kind of celebrity grab people are going to critique you."Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon
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Let me add this:
I dont care too much if people say she is ugly. Maybe she is. But it is a rude thing to say. So if you want to say it and make a joke about it, go ahead. But at least own it. Yes, we are often jerks here.PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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Embarrassing. You treat everyone like they're fools.Originally posted by TripletDaddy View PostHere we have a photo of a woman that might fit a similar mold. No comment is made about her appearance, although it is clear that a lot of inferences were made. People jump up to protest but the protesters are the ones that make the most blatant emphasis on this woman's attractiveness. How can you protest something that was never said unless you, yourself feel that this woman is unattractive?
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Are you disagreeing with my observation? With what, specifically? It is entirely accurate.Originally posted by Levin View PostEmbarrassing. You treat everyone like they're fools. That's the most salient characteristic of your online life.
I genuinely hope it's not also the salient characterstic of your offline life.
by the way, did you ever find a restaurant for dinner? where did you eat?Fitter. Happier. More Productive.
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Don't argue with him. He'll play coy all night long and try and lay the blame on those attacking him. He's already attempting to cast a negative light on us by claiming that we're bad because we too think she's ugly. Whether we do or not is irrelevant to the fact that if we do think so, we had tact enough to not mock the woman for it.Originally posted by Levin View PostEmbarrassing. You treat everyone like they're fools."Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon
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It is rude to say, but is one necessarily a jerk if she can't be offended by the rudeness? That is my distinction. If you are rude about somebody who will never learn of your rudeness you are not being a jerk. To be a jerk, the person must be present.Originally posted by creekster View PostLet me add this:
I dont care too much if people say she is ugly. Maybe she is. But it is a rude thing to say. So if you want to say it and make a joke about it, go ahead. But at least own it. Yes, we are often jerks here."Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."
Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.
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Originally posted by wuapinmon View Posthttp://lema.rae.es/drae/?val=pendejo
I know exactly what the words I use mean, and I mean all of those, especially #8. But, I also have no qualms about using a stronger word, like your mistranslation, when it's called for. Given your posts on Cougarguard I didn't reckon you for a translation literalist, trying to infuse latent English meaning into a word that has neither the same connotation nor definition in English. Neither "mother" nor "fucker" can be subsumed into "pendejo."

Facile. Like the gatekeeping has never entered into newsmaking. The media do a great job of framing stories to suit their narratives, including convincing someone to be photographed holding something, without an agent present to help them consider the intertext it will produce.
I can only speak what local Mexicans mean when use the term. I do not pretend to speak anything elegant in regards to Spanish but instead speak a gutter Spanish, where guys speak about sticking their chorizos in special places. Pendejo to them is not polite and you're just mincing words. You were not being polite to DDD but instead were behaving directly to him in the manner of which you were accusing him. The locals also say things like, Chingole cabrones, chupamelos, culero, chupa tu mader, pendejo, but that is not polite either.Last edited by Topper; 09-18-2012, 06:07 PM."Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."
Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.
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The hypersensitivity here is comical, in light of the other moments of satire and complete disrespect demonstrated. Take no offense at anything somebody does or says, so you may enjoy the show. It all becomes comical theatre in that light.Originally posted by TripletDaddy View PostAre you disagreeing with my observation? With what, specifically? It is entirely accurate.
by the way, did you ever find a restaurant for dinner? where did you eat?"Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."
Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.
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