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Gay and Mormon: BYU hosted panel for gay BYU students
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Sounds good. Return and report.Originally posted by OhioBlue View PostHeading to this tonight...am hearing that there could be as many as 800-1000 in attendance. the room they booked I believe only holds a couple hundred, so I'll be getting there an hour early.
This was probably posted elsewhere (haven't perused CUF much today) and is awesome. This guy is reading CUF:
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/opinion...hurch.html.csp
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I would love to read a detailed report about the meeting if you would be so kind.Originally posted by OhioBlue View Postin my seat....half hour to go until start time and this place is full.
Already, that's a success in my book."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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"...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
"You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
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Thanks for posting this, great stuffOriginally posted by Northwestcoug View Post"In conclusion, let me give a shout-out to dirty sex. What a great thing it is" - Northwestcoug
"And you people wonder why you've had extermination orders issued against you." - landpoke
"Can't . . . let . . . foolish statements . . . by . . . BYU fans . . . go . . . unanswered . . . ." - LA Ute
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Very interesting read. And nice to read that the panel received a standing O. I was also happy to see an apparent lack of comments aimed at condemnation or other sorts of negativity not in line with the purpose of the meeting.
Very happy to know that BYU is taking baby steps by allowing such a panel on campus. Such a huge step at the same time.Fitter. Happier. More Productive.
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Maybe I am kind of a sap, but reading that transcript brought tears to my eyes. This is a big deal.Originally posted by TripletDaddy View PostVery interesting read. And nice to read that the panel received a standing O. I was also happy to see an apparent lack of comments aimed at condemnation or other sorts of negativity not in line with the purpose of the meeting.
Very happy to know that BYU is taking baby steps by allowing such a panel on campus. Such a huge step at the same time."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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What a sap.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostMaybe I am kind of a sap, but reading that transcript brought tears to my eyes. This is a big deal."I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
- Goatnapper'96
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Yep a good first step.Originally posted by TripletDaddy View PostVery interesting read. And nice to read that the panel received a standing O. I was also happy to see an apparent lack of comments aimed at condemnation or other sorts of negativity not in line with the purpose of the meeting.
Very happy to know that BYU is taking baby steps by allowing such a panel on campus. Such a huge step at the same time.
They made an interesting comment that they were not going to address Church doctrine. Obviously a precondition was that they weren't going to say "The Church could or should change...." That's OK with me because I think when you start having open and honest discussion it is obvious where the Church has gone wrong.
There are still some very obvious problems with the content of the Aaronic Priesthood manuals related to homosexuality. But nobody cares about fixing those I guess -- more important things to do first I suppose -- who cares about gay kids committing suicide anyway?
Not sure I agree with holding up as an example a gay guy who got married despite no attraction to his wife and whose wife is on meds to suppress her libido. Pretty sure that is going to end badly. But whatever I guess open discussion is good and that's the reality for a lot of gay people.
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Sap? Nothing of the sort. It is a really huge deal. I felt a great deal of joy in reading it....joy for the panelists but also for the school. Change is possible. It may take a long time, but these kids are true pioneers at BYU. Very courageous. And kudos to the students and faculty in the audience as well. Sounds like a resounding success of an evening. I hope OhioBlue is able to confirm because a lot can be lost in the transcription. I'm interested in his take.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostMaybe I am kind of a sap, but reading that transcript brought tears to my eyes. This is a big deal.Fitter. Happier. More Productive.
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I didn't get the impression that the wife was taking meds specifically to supress the libido, more that the libido suppression was a side effect of whatever medication she's taking. It seemed like it was just an anecdote to say "I'm gay and I want sex with my wife more than she does."Originally posted by CardiacCoug View PostNot sure I agree with holding up as an example a gay guy who got married despite no attraction to his wife and whose wife is on meds to suppress her libido. Pretty sure that is going to end badly. But whatever I guess open discussion is good and that's the reality for a lot of gay people.
"I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
- Goatnapper'96
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