BKP on the Priesthood Ban

[old_gregg]

Gypsies have a bad reputation because they have earned a bad reputation.

just like those damn jews. what a bunch of hook nosed crooks.

[Katy Lied]

Some remain friends of mine to this day from my days spent kicking stray dogs in Bulgaria. We share the same biology, regardless of ideology. Believe me when I say to you, I hope the Gypsies love their children too.

One day in Sofia I snapped a picture of a filthy, barefoot street urchin girl who was very beautiful. Five minutes later I was set upon by two roma men, who demanded $25 US because I took a picture of their relative. I offered to delete the picture but they said I had already taken the picture, and I must pay. They followed me for a few blocks, trying to grab my arm and shoulder and demanding the money.

[Topper]

This annecdote will likely blow some minds, but I've actually met several Gypsies who are warm, decent people. Some remain friends of mine to this day from my days spent kicking stray dogs in Bulgaria. We share the same biology, regardless of ideology. Believe me when I say to you, I hope the Gypsies love their children too.

I've only met gypsies in Spain, and seen crime statistics relative to them. The Germans I knew feared and loathed the gypsies. Then there was the big scandal of the phoney lawsuit by a gypsy and her brother suing Disney, falsely accusing Disney of faulty protective measures.

As I understand it, gypsies originate from India, are nomads and now roam Europe committing various assortment of crimes to continue their nomadic lifestyle in industrialized societies. The gypsy culture is one at odds with industrialized nations.

Germans have one good thing named after gypsies, Zigeunersuppe, or Gypsy Soup.

[Topper]

I have been out of the loop for a while and I apologize for not wanting to go back and read up on what I have missed.

Has the church really come out and basically said the previous prophets got it wrong on the blacks and the Priesthood issue or are those who want them to say that interpreting what they have said to their liking.

Read for yourself.

https://www.lds.org/topics/race-and-the-priesthood?lang=eng

[HBCoug]

This anecdote will likely blow some minds, but I've actually met several Gypsies who are warm, decent people. Some remain friends of mine to this day from my days spent kicking stray dogs in Bulgaria. We share the same biology, regardless of ideology. Believe me when I say to you, I hope the Gypsies love their children too.

[byu71]

I have been out of the loop for a while and I apologize for not wanting to go back and read up on what I have missed.

Has the church really come out and basically said the previous prophets got it wrong on the blacks and the Priesthood issue or are those who want them to say that interpreting what they have said to their liking.

[Katy Lied]

Not to pile on, but I have been screamed at with the most hideous of foul curses by old gypsy babushki, and I am afraid to go anywhere near them- kids, adults, anyone. In meetings in private homes for sacrament meeting in Bucharest, when gypsy families would come in to investigate, and wander off into bedrooms and other rooms, the priesthood brethren would go tense.

[Topper]

Off topic regarding Gypsies. In 1967 when we lived in Turkey, my Dad (the whole family) was driving past a Gypsy caravan in our '64 Impala. A dog from the caravan ran out and chased the car, and was hit and killed. As a result of hitting the dog the right front tire went flat and my Dad kept driving. He drove on that flat tire for more than a mile to escape the Gypsies. As he got out to change the tire the Gypsy Caravan crept closer and closer, and my mom was getting very anxious about the impending meeting. Finally, my Dad got it changed and left the old flat tire on the side of the road, and booked it out of there. As a seven year old seeing my Mom acting scared, and my Dad furiously changing a tire to escape harm, left a huge impression on me. Gypsies have a bad reputation because they have earned a bad reputation.

Nobody messes with gypsies unless armed and ready. They can be a nasty lot.

[clackamascoug]

Excellent insights. And boy do the Germans loathe Turks. And everybody in Europe dislikes the Gypsies. The vagabond nature of the Gypsies makes them easy to dislike.

Off topic regarding Gypsies. In 1967 when we lived in Turkey, my Dad (the whole family) was driving past a Gypsy caravan in our '64 Impala. A dog from the caravan ran out and chased the car, and was hit and killed. As a result of hitting the dog the right front tire went flat and my Dad kept driving. He drove on that flat tire for more than a mile to escape the Gypsies. As he got out to change the tire, the Gypsy Caravan crept closer and closer and my mom was getting very anxious about the impending meeting. Finally, my Dad got it changed and left the old flat tire on the side of the road, and booked it out of there. As a seven year old seeing my Mom acting scared, and my Dad furiously changing a tire to escape harm, left a huge impression on me. Gypsies have a bad reputation because they have earned a bad reputation.

[creekster]

it wasnt just the link. If you went to the home page and did a search for "race priesthood" the first hit was that article. but when you clicked on the article you would get the error message. someone should re-examine the article now and verify that nothing has been changed.

I didnt read the entire article, but I did confirm the disavow language is the same. I think.

[creekster]

Unfortunately, SWA wi fi seems to be operable enough to allow you to post.

Being a student of your posts is practically a full time job.

[SCcoug]

it wasnt just the link. If you went to the home page and did a search for "race priesthood" the first hit was that article. but when you clicked on the article you would get the error message. someone should re-examine the article now and verify that nothing has been changed.

I'm sure plenty of Mo blogs are doing that right now.

[TripletDaddy]

The problem was Topper's link was wrong.

it wasnt just the link. If you went to the home page and did a search for "race priesthood" the first hit was that article. but when you clicked on the article you would get the error message. someone should re-examine the article now and verify that nothing has been changed.

[Topper]

Delta wifi is a tad better but it can be sketchy during the first minutes of flight. IT is rumored AA will have satellite wifi available next year.

It means as you know that international flights could soon start sporting wifi! Yay!

[SCcoug]

The problem was Topper's link was wrong.