I learned in church today

[The_Douger]

My BiL and I were talking about this last night. He used to be a bishop, and he would give people a ward list and tell them to call people they're comfortable calling. He thinks the EQ as a moving company is ridiculous, and asked the EQ to please help if someone called them, but that we weren't organizing this through the ward every week.

I am good with that approach.

[Northwestcoug]

My BiL and I were talking about this last night. He used to be a bishop, and he would give people a ward list and tell them to call people they're comfortable calling. He thinks the EQ as a moving company is ridiculous, and asked the EQ to please help if someone called them, but that we weren't organizing this through the ward every week.

I am good with that approach.

The "problem" with that is coordinating move-ins occupies the majority of the EQP's time, at least it did mine. What else are they going to do with their time, train better lesson instructors?

[Sullyute]

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[LVAllen]

At least they got some family members to show up, I guess.

I disagree with your assessment of moving someone as a matter of essential temporal welfare (with the obvious exceptions of the disabled/widowed/etc). But that's just me.

To be clear, to my knowledge, asking the YM to handle a move was not something I'd ever seen before or since, so it was a surprise when he said the YM were handling it, and it was announced that way in Priesthood. It was not a surprise when they didn't show up.

As far as the temporal welfare distinction, my point was that AP, not MP, is supposed to be in charge of ensuring the temporal welfare of the ward members. If it doesn't belong to the AP, it certainly doesn't doctrinally belong to the MP. It's only due to decisions made 100 years ago that the AP quorums became full of 12-17 year olds, thus eventually dumping most if not all of the practical temporal welfare issues on everyone but the AP (with the singular exception of the bishop, who gets to carry the entire weight of the AP's temporal welfare responsibility other than collecting fast offering envelopes). So while in theory, shoving it back to the AP is sound doctrinally, in practice, no one wants a bunch of teenagers dropping their boxed-up valuables.

[Pheidippides]

I have mixed feelings on EQ moves. On the one hand, it was something I thought was a great community activity - a real welcome to the club thing.

On the other hand, the EQ is begging to help me move this weekend and I want no part of it.

[TripletDaddy]

I have mixed feelings on EQ moves. On the one hand, it was something I thought was a great community activity - a real welcome to the club thing.

On the other hand, the EQ is begging to help me move this weekend and I want no part of it.

Just say no, you will be fine.

[Bo Diddley]

There is certainly a time and place for EQ service like moving people in and out, and every ward and situation is different. I don't think it should really be the norm. In nearly 25 years of marriage, we've moved six times and never had the EQ help. Next time I move I'll hire professionals. Probably professional cleaners too.

[lambdacoug]

I have mixed feelings on EQ moves. On the one hand, it was something I thought was a great community activity - a real welcome to the club thing.

On the other hand, the EQ is begging to help me move this weekend and I want no part of it.

I have friends that do not resign because they fully plan to utilize the EQ Moving Company.

[LVAllen]

I have friends that do not resign because they fully plan to utilize the EQ Moving Company.

Pretty sure they can get the same results with a case of beer at a local college. Side benefit- they don't have to belong to an organization they don't like.

[lambdacoug]

Pretty sure they can get the same results with a case of beer at a local college. Side benefit- they don't have to belong to an organization they don't like.

That's my plan.

[Dwight Schr-ute]

"How does your load affect the measure of our creation?"

[LVAllen]

"How does your load affect the measure of our creation?"

+1. It's all about release.

Allow me to echo HBCoug's earlier remark to respond to you.

[Dwight Schr-ute]

Allow me to echo HBCoug's earlier remark to respond to you.

I wanted to say, it doesn't. 'Cause vasectomy.

[wuapinmon]

My bishop said, "The release of Meet the Mormons is going to be like Lethal Weapon 4."

[myboynoah]

My bishop said, "The release of Meet the Mormons is going to be like Lethal Weapon 4."

He's a funny guy.