I learned in church today

[RC Vikings]

The high councilor mentioned today that he gave a financial incentive to his teenage girls to not kiss anyone before their 18th birthday. He started with 16, but when his oldest met that, he upped the ante. He was so proud that his daughter set that "goal" and met it. Of course, he has no similar incentives for his sons.


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That's a good plan, to associate sex and money. I can't wait until she learns how much she can make by kissing a guy.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Follow her counsel and your kid ends up at UVU (not that there's anything wrong with that). Even moderation puts your kid's BYU application in the questionable pile. When the BYU admissions office starts taking this counsel seriously then perhaps I will.

[Jeff Lebowski]

That's a good plan, to associate sex and money. I can't wait until she learns how much she can make by kissing a guy.

[byu71]

The high councilor mentioned today that he gave a financial incentive to his teenage girls to not kiss anyone before their 18th birthday. He started with 16, but when his oldest met that, he upped the ante. He was so proud that his daughter set that "goal" and met it. Of course, he has no similar incentives for his sons.


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Some people just don't realize how resourceful, smart, etc. kids and even LDS kids can be. Can't have sex out of marriage, heck go to Vegas for the weekend, get married and have it anulled before you leave.

Explain to your boyfriend you can't kiss him, but there are other pleasures besides kissing.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Some people just don't realize how resourceful, smart, etc. kids and even LDS kids can be. Can't have sex out of marriage, heck go to Vegas for the weekend, get married and have it anulled before you leave.

Explain to your boyfriend you can't kiss him, but their are other pleasures besides kissing.

This reminds me of something, I was talking to a guy a month or two ago who used to be bishop of a BYU student ward. He said that it was really common for students to rent a room at that hotel right next to the football stadium (used to be called something else, but now it is a Super 8) to have sex. It got to where they would start confessing and he would say, "Let me guess... Super 8?" and they would reply "How did you know?". Ha.

[Dwight Schr-ute]

With those circumstances in mind, they should probably just drop the "Super" and simply refer to it as the 8.


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[creekster]

Chastity belt

On her lips?

[falafel]

That's a good plan, to associate sex and money. I can't wait until she learns how much she can make by kissing a guy.

He did add that if anyone in the audience knew anything he did not, please tell him because that would save him some money in a few weeks.

[byu71]

He did add that if anyone in the audience knew anything he did not, please tell him because that would save him some money in a few weeks.

Did he get the gratuitous LDS laugh.

[Stick]

On her lips?

I was referring more to the "...or worse" part of that comment, but if anybody wanted one for lips, maybe it would like like this?
bane.jpg

[Joe Public]

This reminds me of something, I was talking to a guy a month or two ago who used to be bishop of a BYU student ward. He said that it was really common for students to rent a room at that hotel right next to the football stadium (used to be called something else, but now it is a Super 8) to have sex. It got to where they would start confessing and he would say, "Let me guess... Super 8?" and they would reply "How did you know?". Ha.

It was called the Comfort Inn at one point, which takes on a whole different meaning after reading your post.

[falafel]

Did he get the gratuitous LDS laugh.

He certainly did.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

That if you are told a meeting starts at 6:30, you are an idiot if you show up on time.

Signed,

An Idiot

[Uncle Ted]

I learned that the Sunday school manual gives the "hollywood version" of the pioneer stories. The lesson manual states:

Point out that the Martin and Willie handcart companies had done all they could to reach the Salt Lake Valley, but they could go no farther. They needed to be rescued. Without the rescue parties, they all would have died.

https://www.lds.org/manual/doctrine-...aving?lang=eng

Other than using poorly built handcarts and ignoring the advise of the people that knew the trail I guess that is true...

The axles and boxes being of wood, and being ground out by the dust that found its way there in spite of our efforts to keep it out, together with the extra weight put on the carts, had the effect of breaking the axles at the shoulder. All kinds of expedients were resorted to as remedies for the growing evil, but with variable success. Some wrapped their axles with leather obtained from bootlegs; others with tin, obtained by sacrificing tin-plates, kettles, or buckets from their mess outfit. Besides these inconveniences, there was felt a great lack of a proper lubricator. Of anything suitable for this purpose we had none at all.


Prior to the Willie Company departing Florence, the company met to debate the wisdom of such a late departure. Because the emigrants were unfamiliar with the trail and the climate, they deferred to the returning missionaries and Church agents. One of the returning missionaries, Levi Savage, urged them to spend the winter in Nebraska. He argued that such a late departure with a company consisting of the elderly, women and young children would lead to suffering, sickness and even death. All of the other Church elders argued that the trip should go forward, expressing optimism that the company would be protected by divine intervention. Some members of the company, perhaps as many as 100, decided to spend the winter in Florence or in Iowa, but the majority, about 404 in number (including Savage) continued the journey west. The Willie Company left Florence on August 17 and the Martin Company on August 27. Two ox-wagon trains, led by captains W.B. Hodgett and John A. Hunt, followed the Martin Company.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_handcart_pioneers

And of the three young handcart rescuers that secured their place in the celestial kingdom...

“‘Three eighteen-year-old boys belonging to the relief party came to the rescue; and to the astonishment of all who saw, carried nearly every member of that ill-fated handcart company across the snow-bound stream. The strain was so terrible, and the exposure so great, that in later years all the boys died from the effects of it. When President Brigham Young heard of this heroic act, he wept like a child, and later declared publicly, “That act alone will ensure C. Allen Huntington, George W. Grant, and David P. Kimball an everlasting salvation in the Celestial Kingdom of God, worlds without end”’ (LeRoy R. Hafen and Ann W. Hafen, Handcarts to Zion [Glendale, California: The Arthur H. Clark Company, 1960], pp. 132–33).

https://www.lds.org/manual/doctrine-...aving?lang=eng

This story is both powerful and relevant, but is not historically accurate. For example, as explained by Church historian Chad M. Orton, there were more than 3 (at least 18 rescuers, but at least 5 actually carrying people across while others helped in other ways) who braved the cold waters, none were eighteen (their ages ranged from 16 to 24), only about 1/3 were actually carried, and none of the rescuers appeared to die from consequences of exposure to the freezing water. Beyond this, both Brigham Young and Heber C. Kimball publically praised these Sweetwater rescuers, but did not base the salvation of these young men on this one act, but rather this act in connection to a full life of living the gospel and enduring to the end. (Chad M. Orton, “The Martin Handcart Company at the Sweetwater: Another Look,” BYU Studies 45, no. 3 [2006]: 8-12)

I like the hollywood versions of the stories better. Maybe I should leave my iPad on home so I am not tempted to research the stories during the lesson.

[Moliere]

And of the three young handcart rescuers that secured their place in the celestial kingdom...

https://www.lds.org/manual/doctrine-...aving?lang=eng

This story is both powerful and relevant, but is not historically accurate. For example, as explained by Church historian Chad M. Orton, there were more than 3 (at least 18 rescuers, but at least 5 actually carrying people across while others helped in other ways) who braved the cold waters, none were eighteen (their ages ranged from 16 to 24), only about 1/3 were actually carried, and none of the rescuers appeared to die from consequences of exposure to the freezing water. Beyond this, both Brigham Young and Heber C. Kimball publically praised these Sweetwater rescuers, but did not base the salvation of these young men on this one act, but rather this act in connection to a full life of living the gospel and enduring to the end. (Chad M. Orton, “The Martin Handcart Company at the Sweetwater: Another Look,” BYU Studies 45, no. 3 [2006]: 8-12)

This seems like a correlated response to what BY originally was purported to have said. I mean, you can't just be granting salvation to people that are 18 years old otherwise they'll fall off the wagon, drink beer and go apostate all while still being able to reach the CK.