Sunstone Borderlander Column

[Spicy McHaggis]

Do you know the Theory of Evolution is true?

Sure, species do in fact evolve so it is possible to know that it is true. That knowledge isn't based on a feeling, the exact same feeling that quite a few people felt last night at the Paul McCartney concert.

[jay santos]

Fixed.

lol, ouch.

[Indy Coug]

Sure, species do in fact evolve so it is possible to know that it is true. That knowledge isn't based on a feeling, the exact same feeling that quite a few people felt last night at the Paul McCartney concert.

So you've personally observed the evolution?

[statman]

If Dustin and his girlfriend went to a marriage counselor, my bet is he/she would advise Dustin to move on. Their personalities are not a match and other issues are going to develop after marriage, IMHO.

There are other things later on she is going to "know" and he might not. If somehow they hooked up and he felt his opinions were subservient to hers because she has the "spirit", well I would be hesitant to enter a relationship like that from either of their sides.

Agreed. One of them is going to end up disappointed...

[statman]

... the "data" is increasingly credible...

Data ARE increasingly credible...

[wuapinmon]

Data ARE increasingly credible...

[Indy Coug]

Data ARE increasingly credible...

You've been watching too much World Cup with British announcers, haven't you?

[Spicy McHaggis]

So you've personally observed the evolution?

I don't need to. Find a biology professor at byu who claims evolution doesn't happen.

Have you personally observed God or the golden plates?

[Spicy McHaggis]

There is less of a difference between knowing and believing than you might know. Epistemologists generally define "knowledge" as "justified, true belief". What can be inferred from that principle is that if a person "believes" a proposition, AND if that proposition is "true" (regardless of the "justification"), then that person "knows" that proposition. The distinguishing feature of "knowledge" from "belief" isn't whether a proposition is "true", because a belief may be true or false; the distinguishing feature is "justification". Does the person merely or randomly hold on to a particular belief, or is there a stronger justification for that belief.

There are inumerable different beliefs. Not all of them can be true. In fact there is only one truth.
Experts will say that 10 different people can witness an event and there will be 10 different witness statements. They all believe they know what is right but when they see it again via video, they are shocked to realize their initial "knowledge" was incorrect.
I don't think you can 'know' anything unless it is true.
Belief is subjective, knowing is objective.

[beefytee]

I don't need to. Find a biology professor at byu who claims evolution doesn't happen.

Have you personally observed God or the golden plates?

That's his point. Your claim on knowledge is as shaky and his.

By certain definitions that seemed to be used in this thread, we can't really know anything.

For all we know (pardon the pun), we are in a giant "Truman Show". Just because your experiences haven't been the same as his doesn't give you any sort of authority to discount his.