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  • #16
    Originally posted by beefytee View Post
    One that still doesn't make sense is taking a rib from Adam and creating Eve.
    How about taking the marrow out of a rib, creating a glob of stem cells, pulling out the Y chromosome from a single stem cell and replacing it with an X. And then using some unknown technique to set the whole thing growing into a new human...

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    • #17
      Originally posted by beefytee View Post
      Maybe saying "Genesis" wasn't accurate. I guess I mean the creation as represented in the scriptures and I never said I accept Genesis literally. I obviously don't think the earth and man was created in 6 days.

      Before learning about evolution "created from the dust" never made sense to me. After understanding evolution this makes perfect sense.

      One that still doesn't make sense is taking a rib from Adam and creating Eve.
      Well then. If you don't believe the bible version of the creation, then you can't very well say that you don't find any contradiction between that and evolution.

      I might as well say that I find no contradiction between the bible and evolution, because I don't think Charles Darwin was being literal.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by beefytee View Post
        One that still doesn't make sense is taking a rib from Adam and creating Eve.
        I didn't much care about this until this weekend when the missus, after declaring she was going all-vegan for the evening, tried to take one of my smoked ribs without my consent, and based her attempted theft on the precedent that "Eve took a rib from Adam, and I'm following her lead." It's horrible how some use scripture to justify wrongful acts.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Jacob View Post
          Well then. If you don't believe the bible version of the creation, then you can't very well say that you don't find any contradiction between that and evolution.

          I might as well say that I find no contradiction between the bible and evolution, because I don't think Charles Darwin was being literal.

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          • #20
            It's interesting how prior to some meddling in the thread that Theistic Evolutionism was winning and after some meddling Evolutionary Creationism pulled into the lead. I might have more influence on CB than I thought.
            "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Jacob View Post
              Well then. If you don't believe the bible version of the creation, then you can't very well say that you don't find any contradiction between that and evolution.

              I might as well say that I find no contradiction between the bible and evolution, because I don't think Charles Darwin was being literal.
              So what do you think that is an argument in favor of?

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              • #22
                Jarid, you left out one option: "I don't know exactly how God did it, but I think he did it." But maybe that is one of your options. I can't tell. Anyway, that's where I am.
                “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                ― W.H. Auden


                "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                  Jarid, you left out one option: "I don't know exactly how God did it, but I think he did it." But maybe that is one of your options. I can't tell. Anyway, that's where I am.
                  Why not accept the best scientific explanation for it?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by beefytee View Post
                    Am I the only person here that doesn't think that God waves a magic wand?
                    See, DDD would've taken this and made comic gold out of it without going blue. I can only muster something like, "Please explain the Annunciation."
                    "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                    The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by SCcoug View Post
                      Why not accept the best scientific explanation for it?
                      Because I think God knows more than scientists. This is not a novel thought.
                      Last edited by LA Ute; 07-06-2010, 09:19 PM.
                      “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                      ― W.H. Auden


                      "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                      -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                      "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                      --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by SCcoug View Post
                        Why not accept the best scientific explanation for it?
                        Because the best scientific explanation changes. At least that's why I don't accept it.
                        Not that, sickos.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by thesaint258 View Post
                          Because the best scientific explanation changes. At least that's why I don't accept it.
                          Meh. A theory will continue to evolve as new/more compelling evidence presents itself. Scientific thought that doesn't change isn't really science.
                          Last edited by Jarid in Cedar; 07-07-2010, 09:00 AM.
                          "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                            Jarid, you left out one option: "I don't know exactly how God did it, but I think he did it." But maybe that is one of your options. I can't tell. Anyway, that's where I am.
                            That answer fits in the spectrum of what intelligent design will encompass. Do you consider yourself in the new earth(~5000 years old) or old earth(billions of years old) camp?
                            "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

                            "They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."

                            "I like to bike. I could beat Lance Armstrong, only because he couldn't pass me if he was behind me."

                            -Rick Majerus

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                            • #29
                              incoming woot
                              Dyslexics are teople poo...

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Flystripper View Post
                                incoming woot
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                                "Nobody listens to Turtle."
                                -Turtle
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