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  • #31
    Originally posted by Flystripper View Post
    incoming woot
    I thought of Woot when I made this thread. He has been MIA.
    "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

    "They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."

    "I like to bike. I could beat Lance Armstrong, only because he couldn't pass me if he was behind me."

    -Rick Majerus

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
      I thought of Woot when I made this thread. He has been MIA.
      I thought he told us that he was going to be out doing field work this summer. Am I not remembering correctly?
      PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
        That answer fits in the spectrum of what intelligent design will encompass. Do you consider yourself in the new earth(~5000 years old) or old earth(billions of years old) camp?
        I am in the "I don't know and I'm OK with not knowing" camp. Make sense?
        “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
        ― W.H. Auden


        "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
        -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


        "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
        --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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        • #34
          Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
          I am in the "I don't know and I'm OK with not knowing" camp. Make sense?
          Just trying to pin you down a little more specifically. Way to parry the question counsellor
          "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

          "They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."

          "I like to bike. I could beat Lance Armstrong, only because he couldn't pass me if he was behind me."

          -Rick Majerus

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
            Just trying to pin you down a little more specifically. Way to parry the question counsellor
            But that's how I really feel!
            “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
            ― W.H. Auden


            "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
            -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


            "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
            --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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            • #36
              Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
              But that's how I really feel!
              I know that is how you feel. I am curious what you think of this question.

              Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
              That answer fits in the spectrum of what intelligent design will encompass. Do you consider yourself in the new earth(~5000 years old) or old earth(billions of years old) camp?
              "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

              "They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."

              "I like to bike. I could beat Lance Armstrong, only because he couldn't pass me if he was behind me."

              -Rick Majerus

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
                I know that is how you feel. I am curious what you think of this question.
                LA thinks questions like that one are trivial.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
                  LA thinks questions like that one are trivial.
                  An admittedly poor choice of words on my part (an admission previously made, I might add; and yet you continue to punish me).

                  To me the answer to Jarid's question is not very important, although I am skeptical (to say the least) about the "younger earth" claims. I believe in all kinds of miracles. I don't know how Jesus was resurrected or how Moroni traveled to Joseph Smith from whatever his place of origin was. So not knowing how God caused the earth's creation doesn't trouble me much.
                  “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                  ― W.H. Auden


                  "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                  -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                  "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                  --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                    An admittedly poor choice of words on my part (an admission previously made, I might add; and yet you continue to punish me).

                    To me the answer to Jarid's question is not very important, although I am skeptical (to say the least) about the "younger earth" claims. I believe in all kinds of miracles. I don't know how Jesus was resurrected or how Moroni traveled to Joseph Smith from whatever his place of origin was. So not knowing how God caused the earth's creation doesn't trouble me much.
                    "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

                    "They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."

                    "I like to bike. I could beat Lance Armstrong, only because he couldn't pass me if he was behind me."

                    -Rick Majerus

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                      An admittedly poor choice of words on my part (an admission previously made, I might add; and yet you continue to punish me).

                      To me the answer to Jarid's question is not very important, although I am skeptical (to say the least) about the "younger earth" claims. I believe in all kinds of miracles. I don't know how Jesus was resurrected or how Moroni traveled to Joseph Smith from whatever his place of origin was. So not knowing how God caused the earth's creation doesn't trouble me much.
                      Just own it LA. We will still love you.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
                        Just own it LA. We will still love you.
                        Well, "not important to me" is very different from "trivial." And thank you for your affection. It is not unreciprocated.
                        Last edited by LA Ute; 07-07-2010, 05:09 PM.
                        “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                        ― W.H. Auden


                        "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                        -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                        "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                        --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

                        Comment


                        • #42
                          Within the creation/evolution issue, I'm most interested in how it relates in the area of human evolution and early anthropology. I think most LDS are OK with evolution in the context of intelligent design. I'm more interested in explaining how the Bible and BOM fits in with the concept of man being 50,000+ years old and evolving out of Africa and being numbered throughout Europe, Asia, and Africa before civilizations started to form.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
                            Meh. A theory will continue to evolve as new/more compelling evidence presents itself. Scientific thought that doesn't change isn't really science.
                            I think LA Ute's explanation was what I was thinking about. I don't know how God did it, but he did. I don't know if it was evolution or some other mechanism, but if I got to the next life and found out that evolution was how he did it, I don't think I'd care much. So put me down for some form of intelligent design.
                            Not that, sickos.

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                            • #44
                              Can somebody change my vote? I mistakenly voted. Thanks.

                              EDIT: Change me from theistic to agnostic. Thanks.
                              When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                              --Jonathan Swift

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                                Can somebody change my vote? I mistakenly voted. Thanks.

                                EDIT: Change me from theistic to agnostic. Thanks.
                                You do realize there is no money at stake here, right?
                                PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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