Seminary False Doctrine

[creekster]

Ask all the black people!

I think you mean the people who are all blacks?

[Jeff Lebowski]

Yeah, I am considering what I would like my response to be. I htink my wife would like it to be "nothing". She was pretty upset as well, but she is not a boat-rocker. I on the other hand, haven't been able to help but notice that in the 3 years since I confronted my bishop about teaching false doctrine, I have received absolutely zero new callings, so there is definitely some incentive to keep it up.

If that is not worth some boat-rocking, I don't know what is.

[smokymountainrain]

If that is not worth some boat-rocking, I don't know what is.

No kidding. Seriously unreal.

[statman]

My daughter is a freshman in high school this year. She came home from seminary mad the other day. Her teacher was riled up because she had seen something about a Gay-Lesbian Club at a local high school, and went off on how bad things were these days for a bit, then said:

"When I was in high school, any kids who were known to be gay got beat up. Don't they do that anymore?"

The next 10 or 15 minutes was spent by the teacher and some of the students reminiscing about the good old days when you were allowed to beat the queer out of people.

I'd report the asswhipe to your Stake President and to CES. And if I didn't get more than a "thank you for your input" from them, I'd be firing off a letter to whichever of the 12 is over Seminary - and to TSM. I'd be sure to say that the SP and CES didn't really seem to care that homophobia was being taught to seminary students. Those letters do actually get read (not by the addressee, but by someone who reports to him) and are followed up on...

[statman]

Last year my son returned from seminary one day upset that the isntructor had stated that there was no evidence of evolution and that it was a sham theory. I told my son I would be happy not only to talk to the instructor but also to go to class with him and offer an alternative viewpoint. My son recoiled at this thought but was interested in me making sure he was up to speed on the issues so he could present them effectively. He then took on the instructor on this topic and eventually, as I underdstand it, the instructor left it alone. Thus the topic was dealt with, my son got a taste of defending himself against wacky ideas, and I didnt have to talk to anyone. Win-win-win from my POV. The only problem is that I do still have a calling. I need to be more addison-aggressive, I guess.

Expressing such beliefs is not a shield from callings. My first-ever online purchase was a "Darwin Fish" sticker-thingy to put on my car. A day or two after I put it on, our bishop noticed it and asked about it. The next Sunday I was "appointed" to be one of our ward's new seminary teachers. Worst two years of my life - summers excluded. Seriously.

[SeattleUte]

For some reason they were discussing the '78 revelation this morning in my daughter's Seminary class and she asked why there had been a ban against those of African decent. The instructor said it was because of lineage.

This is false Mormon Doctrine? Who says so?

[SoCalCoug]

Your son was probably worried that you were going to show up at Seminary and do the haka.

Keep up. It's twerking these days.

[Uncle Ted]

This is false Mormon Doctrine? Who says so?

The official church website says so...

People of all races have always been welcomed and baptized into the Church since its beginning. In fact, by the end of his life in 1844 Joseph Smith, the founding prophet of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, opposed slavery. During this time some black males were ordained to the priesthood. At some point the Church stopped ordaining male members of African descent, although there were a few exceptions. It is not known precisely why, how or when this restriction began in the Church, but it has ended. Church leaders sought divine guidance regarding the issue and more than three decades ago extended the priesthood to all worthy male members. The Church immediately began ordaining members to priesthood offices wherever they attended throughout the world.

http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/mormonism-101#C17

It was just all just a big misunderstanding and the church leadership just needed a little divine guidance.

[Uncle Ted]

Expressing such beliefs is not a shield from callings. My first-ever online purchase was a "Darwin Fish" sticker-thingy to put on my car. A day or two after I put it on, our bishop noticed it and asked about it. The next Sunday I was "appointed" to be one of our ward's new seminary teachers. Worst two years of my life - summers excluded. Seriously.

If my kids' seminary teacher had a "Darwin Fish" sticker-thingy on his car I would be reporting him to the SP and to the CES dude. And then I would be firing off a letter to whichever of the 12 is over seminary and to TSM that included a few select quotes from the "true" edition of Mormon Doctrine.

[Dwight Schr-ute]

I'd report the asswhipe to your Stake President and to CES. And if I didn't get more than a "thank you for your input" from them, I'd be firing off a letter to whichever of the 12 is over Seminary - and to TSM. I'd be sure to say that the SP and CES didn't really seem to care that homophobia was being taught to seminary students. Those letters do actually get read (not by the addressee, but by someone who reports to him) and are followed up on...

No kidding. Chances are fairly decent that there is a student sitting in that class struggling with their sexual identity.

[Omaha 680]

Yeah, I am considering what I would like my response to be. I htink my wife would like it to be "nothing". She was pretty upset as well, but she is not a boat-rocker. I on the other hand, haven't been able to help but notice that in the 3 years since I confronted my bishop about teaching false doctrine, I have received absolutely zero new callings, so there is definitely some incentive to keep it up.

I agree with those who said this needs to be addressed. I would take it head on with the teacher first and let him know I have some real issues with teaching such intolerance and promotion of violence. I would try to get him to understand that it needs to be corrected in class and it needs to come from him. Depending on how that went I would also inform the Bishop. I'd probably inform him anyway, but I'd let the teacher know I was doing it first.