Baptism numbers are decreasing.

[byu71]

Data I've seen generally indicates that in the Mormon "core" (Utah and parts of Idaho and Wyoming), attendance avgs about 55%. In the rest of the United States, 45% is about right. Once you get out of the U.S. and Canada, the numbers drop to around 25%. But there is considerable variation - I've seen my stake's numbers (in the midwest). 12 units, with a range between about 30% and 70%. As a stake, if I remember correctly, we were just under 50% - I'm thinking 48 or 49%.

But it isn't the same 55% each week - some people are sick, others out of town, some people come out infrequently, etc. So if we are looking at the pct of members who retain some connection to the church (coming to Sac Mtg at least once a year), I'd guess you need to add 10-15% to each of these numbers.

I am only talking about purging 10-20%. There will still be plenty of members who fall short in comparison to the really good members. Still lots of opportunity for comparisons.

[kccougar]

Plus Lexus, expense card, full-ride at BYU for Lil'Robin, and Tommy's direct? We might be able to work something out.

Sorry, Q12 tops out with a Toyota Avalon.

[TripletDaddy]

Sorry, Q12 tops out with a Toyota Avalon.

Remember when they were all rocking Bonnevilles? I am pretty sure the average member couldn't buy a Bonneville. You needed a special recommend to get one.

[statman]

Do they keep that stat? It would be interesting to know.

They keep it per quarter for priesthood and relief society attendance. At least it's one of the numbers I have to report quarterly...

[Portland Ute]

I am only talking about purging 10-20%. There will still be plenty of members who fall short in comparison to the really good members. Still lots of opportunity for comparisons.

There are easily 10-20% that either have no idea they are members, have forgotten they were members or flat out do NOT want to be members.

I think your number is too low.

I think we need to look at purging more in the 30-35% range.

Yeah...that's the ticket!

[Portland Ute]

They keep it per quarter for priesthood and relief society attendance. At least it's one of the numbers I have to report quarterly...

That would suffice. I wonder what that number looks like.

We had a discussion regarding "active" members of the Church a few weeks ago. I went on a mission to Spain, my brother to Mexico, my BIL to Brazil, my other BIL to Costa Rica and my wife went to T.S. but did some time in the Florida panhandle. There were a couple of others present that served in the midwest and other non-US locales.

I grew up in Fruit Heights, UT. Several general authorities announced in stake conference that the Fruit Heights stake was one of if not the most active stakes in "zion." IIRC, it was around 90%...in a community where about 90% were LDS.

Our general concensus ended up with an estimate of 20-25% of the general conference announced number was correct. (We were talking 1X per month. Which, in hardcore Mormon terms would not constitute "active" by any stretch of the imagination. If you went to a more "mullah" definition of "active",let's say missing church only 1x per month, I bet you are down to 10-20%).

[Viking]

Sorry, Q12 tops out with a Toyota Avalon.

I know several people who own Avalons because of this

[UtahDan]

I know several people who own Avalons because of this

The zealot guy who runs this site has to be one of them.

[Viking]

The zealot guy who runs this site has to be one of them.

I think that site is creepy.

[scottie]

Perhaps they were decreasing:

[New Mexican Disaster]

Perhaps they were decreasing:

oh no.

[Moliere]

oh no.

Why do people keep making these? Do they think they are crazy awesome and they want in on the action. Or maybe they see how bad they are but they like the idea and think they can improve on the last one. Well, in either case they are wrong.

[New Mexican Disaster]

Why do people keep making these? Do they think they are crazy awesome and they want in on the action. Or maybe they see how bad they are but they like the idea and think they can improve on the last one. Well, in either case they are wrong.

Many people do not know they are not funny or charming.

[Dwight Schr-ute]

I wonder if this is enough to inspire Mitt to try again.

[Bo Diddley]

We should totally do a CS version. When do we start filming?