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  • byu71
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 22070

    #31
    Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
    They certainly don't keep that stat for sacrament attendance.
    They do have a stat for average percentage attendance at Sacrament Meeting don't they. Ward attendance at Sacrament meeting divided by ward members. I realize that would be a different stat that what you were referring to.

    Anyone know what the average attendance is at Sacrament meeting as a percent of members.

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    • smokymountainrain
      Impressive Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 22593

      #32
      Originally posted by RobinFinderson View Post
      I'm still willing to come back if promoted to Q12... it would help the numbers.
      I might be able to swing Area Seventy - that isn't chopped liver, you know. You game?
      I'm like LeBron James.
      -mpfunk

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      • Surfah
        Where's Wallace?
        • Nov 2008
        • 33726

        #33
        Originally posted by byu71 View Post
        They do have a stat for average percentage attendance at Sacrament Meeting don't they. Ward attendance at Sacrament meeting divided by ward members. I realize that would be a different stat that what you were referring to.

        Anyone know what the average attendance is at Sacrament meeting as a percent of members.
        I only know for our ward. It fluctuates between 25-35%.
        "Nobody listens to Turtle."
        -Turtle
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        • byu71
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 22070

          #34
          Originally posted by Surfah View Post
          I only know for our ward. It fluctuates between 25-35%.
          Seems like a good purge is in order. Maybe we ought to get tougher like Bronco. If you can't keep your committment, we will withdraw our offer. Since we don't care how big the church looks in numbers, kicking out a few million members might be good.

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          • RobinFinderson
            Banned
            • Nov 2008
            • 10548

            #35
            Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
            I might be able to swing Area Seventy - that isn't chopped liver, you know. You game?
            Plus Lexus, expense card, full-ride at BYU for Lil'Robin, and Tommy's direct? We might be able to work something out.

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            • statman
              Rabblerouser
              • Aug 2009
              • 2799

              #36
              Originally posted by John McClain View Post
              This makes me feel better about my mission experience. In 1973, in my mission (Franco-Belge), we had 93 baptisms for the entire year. In 1974, in an effort to clean up the rolls, weed out those who no longer desired membership, and otherwise deal with some out and out apostates, our mission president conducted church courts throughout the mission, and we ended up excommunicating about 500 people. So in essence, my mission was significantly in the red when it came to increasing church membership. Notwithstanding this, those experiences created a number of strong leaders in the Church today, both in France and amongst the missionaries who served there.
              My very first home teaching assignment as an Elder was with my dad, removing people from our ward's membership roles. It wasn't particularly fun. One guy pulled out a shotgun...

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              • RC Vikings
                Known Heterosexual
                • Nov 2008
                • 8789

                #37
                Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                Seems like a good purge is in order. Maybe we ought to get tougher like Bronco. If you can't keep your committment, we will withdraw our offer. Since we don't care how big the church looks in numbers, kicking out a few million members might be good.
                I believe we need to keep more of the players eligible and make it easier to stay in school (church). Just think of the bump if we eased up on the WOW and cut church down to an hour.

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                • UtahDan
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                  • Nov 2008
                  • 14496

                  #38
                  Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
                  I believe we need to keep more of the players eligible and make it easier to stay in school (church). Just think of the bump if we eased up on the WOW and cut church down to an hour.

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                  • pellegrino
                    miserere me
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 12100

                    #39
                    Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
                    looks like the sustaining vote was unanimous in the affirmative.
                    Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
                    God forgives many things for an act of mercy
                    Alessandro Manzoni

                    Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.

                    pelagius

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                    • byu71
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 22070

                      #40
                      Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
                      I believe we need to keep more of the players eligible and make it easier to stay in school (church). Just think of the bump if we eased up on the WOW and cut church down to an hour.
                      If that was done, I wonder how much church attendance would increase. Of course you would have some who would stop going. There would be less measures to seperate themselves from the unrighteous and church wouldn't be as fun anymore.

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                      • RC Vikings
                        Known Heterosexual
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 8789

                        #41
                        Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                        If that was done, I wonder how much church attendance would increase. Of course you would have some who would stop going. There would be less measures to seperate themselves from the unrighteous and church wouldn't be as fun anymore.
                        You've got a point there. I think a few in my ward would like to step it up a bit with perhaps an extra hour of church where we beat each other with a sackcloth just to truly separate the righteous from those that are luke warm.

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                        • landpoke
                          Never once baby snatched
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 4183

                          #42
                          "The answer is simple: people have their agency. The Lord never promised that the whole world -- or even the majority of its population -- would join his church. He only promised they would all be given the opportunity, if not in this life, in the next."

                          Well here's you people's problem. No carrot or stick.
                          There's no such thing as luck, only drunken invincibility. Make it happen.

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                          Today is Friday, Friday (Partyin’)

                          Tomorrow is Saturday
                          And Sunday comes afterwards

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                          • mUUser
                            Giggity
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 1142

                            #43
                            Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
                            I believe we need to keep more of the players eligible and make it easier to stay in school (church). Just think of the bump if we eased up on the WOW and cut church down to an hour.

                            Why one or the other? I'd go with the two-pronged approach.

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                            • NorthShoreCoug
                              Junior Member
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 327

                              #44
                              Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                              They do have a stat for average percentage attendance at Sacrament Meeting don't they. Ward attendance at Sacrament meeting divided by ward members. I realize that would be a different stat that what you were referring to.

                              Anyone know what the average attendance is at Sacrament meeting as a percent of members.
                              Data I've seen generally indicates that in the Mormon "core" (Utah and parts of Idaho and Wyoming), attendance avgs about 55%. In the rest of the United States, 45% is about right. Once you get out of the U.S. and Canada, the numbers drop to around 25%. But there is considerable variation - I've seen my stake's numbers (in the midwest). 12 units, with a range between about 30% and 70%. As a stake, if I remember correctly, we were just under 50% - I'm thinking 48 or 49%.

                              But it isn't the same 55% each week - some people are sick, others out of town, some people come out infrequently, etc. So if we are looking at the pct of members who retain some connection to the church (coming to Sac Mtg at least once a year), I'd guess you need to add 10-15% to each of these numbers.

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                              • Indy Coug
                                Heartless Bastard
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 18747

                                #45
                                Our branch averaged 25%-30% to sacrament, but we probably were close to having 50%-60% of the branch attending sacrament at least once a quarter. That's probably a little extreme example, but it shows the difference between average attendance vs a "once every..." attendance.
                                Everything in life is an approximation.

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