What is more damaging?

[PaloAltoCougar]

Yes! Except it isn't 'infidelity' if it is permitted. Same goes for abuse (whipping, spanking, clamps, etc). Personally, I hate verbal abuse, but can I imagine some people liking language directed at them that I would personally find to be abusive? Stranger things have happened.

If a couple likes something, and it is mutually accepted, there probably won't cause real harm (of the mental anguish sort).

I know you are sincere in all this, but it's a view of relationships, commitment and life's meaning that is so foreign to me that I can't truly comprehend it. Despite your scorn for my generation, you really are a child of the '60s. If it feels good, do it; if it doesn't, move on.

[Katy Lied]

Was, not was.

Nice. Very Babsian.

[Rosebud]

Yes! Except it isn't 'infidelity' if it is permitted. Same goes for abuse (whipping, spanking, clamps, etc). Personally, I hate verbal abuse, but can I imagine some people liking language directed at them that I would personally find to be abusive? Stranger things have happened.

If a couple likes something, and it is mutually accepted, there probably won't cause real harm (of the mental anguish sort).

You make this sort of argument often. You've heard and (hopefully) considered several of the valid retorts so I won't take the time to list them out here. To me this seems like the kind of philosophy people play with for a while then discard. My questions, then, is: why is this your position?

[SoCalCoug]

I once noticed an Amish man sneaking a peek at SI Swimsuit edition in Costco. He didn't seem bothered by it. Neither was I. The Amish are more misunderstood than LDS.

Wait a second . . .what aisle are the SI swimsuit editions in?

[scandell]

I once noticed an Amish man sneaking a peek at SI Swimsuit edition in Costco. He didn't seem bothered by it. Neither was I. The Amish are more misunderstood than LDS.

Maybe he was just a Quaker.

[The Fourth Nephite]

Why do you think they're pulling off financial scams?

That's right, to pay for hookers, which their porn habit directly led them to.

[The Fourth Nephite]

You are correct. I should correct my previous statement: Porn is only damaging when either one or both members of a partnership THINK that something is wrong with porn. If you don't think there is a problem, then nothing is wrong with it.

So following that line of reasoning, if I don't think there's anything wrong with the ebola virus, then nothing's wrong with the ebola virus.

[Tick's wife]

The financial Scam would more likely put you in jail. Loss of temple recommend, job, home, family, and so forth...oh wait, maybe looking at the SI swimsuit and Playboy lead him to the financial scam....

[byu71]

The financial Scam would more likely put you in jail. Loss of temple recommend, job, home, family, and so forth...oh wait, maybe looking at the SI swimsuit and Playboy lead him to the financial scam....

If that was the only results, I would be OK. What bugs me is all the folks who lose their shirts and pants that fell for the scams. Running around nekked after that leads to porn.

[Tick's wife]

If that was the only results, I would be OK. What bugs me is all the folks who lose their shirts and pants that fell for the scams. Running around nekked after that leads to porn.

oh, yeah, I do feel sorry for those that fall for the scams but man...porn would only get you chewed out by B, if he found out.

[RobinFinderson]

You make this sort of argument often. You've heard and (hopefully) considered several of the valid retorts so I won't take the time to list them out here. To me this seems like the kind of philosophy people play with for a while then discard. My questions, then, is: why is this your position?

Dear Rosebud, who I love and respect, and upon whose cross I was nearly permanently banned from CUF today, the reason is simple:

Sex is culture, and pornography is one of our most important records of this cultural phenomenon. How do people do it? What is possible? Who is doing whom? What creative things are people doing? Where are they doing it? What does it sound like? These are all valid questions that any human being might ask. Though the quality of the answers can be debated, pornography remains the common person's go-to source for answers.

At the end of the day, pornography is information that people value, and it is information that they want. Most people use this information responsibly. Some don't. If a terrorist finds a recipe for TNT, and uses it to kill an innocent, should Alfred Nobel be held to blame? I support the use of pornography because it is useful information.

[RobinFinderson]

So following that line of reasoning, if I don't think there's anything wrong with the ebola virus, then nothing's wrong with the ebola virus.

Correct. There is nothing wrong with the ebola virus existing, regardless what you think about it.

[The Fourth Nephite]

Correct. There is nothing wrong with the ebola virus existing, regardless what you think about it.

Ebola would be very harmful to me.

[RobinFinderson]

Ebola would be very harmful to me.

You are probably right.

[The Fourth Nephite]

You are probably right.

Likewise, porn is very harmful to people.