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At Ricks I was 1st councilor in the SS and was in charge of the reports. I had the secretary come over to go over the rolls and we ended up rolling each other. College was a good time.Originally posted by Eddie Jones View PostI was once a SS president (tough calling by the way as I injured my finger multiple times while pressing the bell button) and I had a woman as the secretary. I know the secretary isn't officially in the presidency but still I thought I was being progressive. Plus she was excellent at her calling so we kept her there as long as we could.
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Since you don't seem to know me that well, you should know that I'm not serious. The real reason is that I haven't had time to invest 30 mins in question-after-question that no one answers this semester.Originally posted by Eddie Jones View PostI apologize."Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon
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Hey, I answered the question! We are great friends!Originally posted by wuapinmon View PostSince you don't seem to know me that well, you should know that I'm not serious. The real reason is that I haven't had time to invest 30 mins in question-after-question that no one answers this semester.
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"Shall be" does not equal "are."Originally posted by TheBYUGuy View PostHey, I answered the question! We are great friends!
You are foreordained, not pre-destined.
"Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon
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Did he ever live in Arizona? Does he have a son with the same name? I seem to recall a friend of a friend marrying a guy with the exact same name, but this guy is in his early 30s. It is a unique name.Originally posted by Tim View PostMy personal hero.Fitter. Happier. More Productive.
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Originally posted by CardiacCoug View PostI know Lingo's post may be TIC. But this is the post that bothers me more than any other in this thread -- even more than Indy shutting of his brain in responding to any post that could be perceived as critical of the Church.
This post by Lingo, even if tongue-in-cheek, is misogynistic. The attitude exemplified in this post is the unfortunate byproduct of these "traditions with no basis" like not inviting women to speak in General Conference.
“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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I haven't seen anything in writing but I was told that we avoid husband-wife prayers in our stake because we don't want to leave anyone out, which seems like an excellent (and the best) reason.Originally posted by Katy Lied View PostIn our ward, they never ask a husband-and-wife team to say the prayers. And unless it is an introduction to a new family, they never ask both the husband and wife to speak on the same Sunday.
I asked about this once, and was told that this rule of thumb was to minimize the danger of both spouses forgetting their assignment, and having no speakers (or prayers). I guess the ward had been burned a few times.“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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It's in writing - in the handbook of instructions (I posted it elsewhere in this thread).Originally posted by LA Ute View PostI haven't seen anything in writing but I was told that we avoid husband-wife prayers in our stake because we don't want to leave anyone out, which seems like an excellent (and the best) reason."More crazy people to Provo go than to any other town in the state."
-- Iron County Record. 23 August, 1912. (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...23/ed-1/seq-4/)
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I gave you a wink. If you're going to be this demanding, I don't think this relationship is going to work out.Originally posted by TheBYUGuy View PostAlas, I was hoping for a secret message."Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon
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I was being sarcastic in my apology. In fact, I tend to be sarcastic in 75% of my posts, however truth be told there is always a little truth in every sarcastic remark.Originally posted by wuapinmon View PostSince you don't seem to know me that well, you should know that I'm not serious. The real reason is that I haven't had time to invest 30 mins in question-after-question that no one answers this semester."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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I didn't see this mentioned elsewhere (maybe it was) but the folks who brought you "Wear Pants to Church Day" are now bringing you "Let Women Pray."
http://www.facebook.com/LetWomenPray
While women hold important positions within the church, a woman has never given the opening or closing prayer at General Conference. We ask that women be given the opportunity to pray in General Conference, as a symbol of equality within our church.
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The church should one up this group and give all GC prayer responsibilities to the women. That way, it would appear as if prayer were a task below men but the women couldn't complain because they got all that they wanted and more.Originally posted by UtahDan View PostI didn't see this mentioned elsewhere (maybe it was) but the folks who brought you "Wear Pants to Church Day" are now bringing you "Let Women Pray."
http://www.facebook.com/LetWomenPrayAin't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
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