Dinosaurs?

[jay santos]

FWIW, Talmage believed in what he called "pre-Adamites". How literally do you take other parts of the creation story?

Not very literal, but my view of it is changing all the time. Indy's post is one alternative, but I wondered how that theory deals with evolution of humans.

[Indy Coug]

I also more or less go with this answer. I'm grappling with the evolution of human beings right now. Indy or others: serious question, if you take this model, are there other humans outside the garden at the time Adam and Eve are placed in the garden? Does it matter?

I don't really have an answer for this, but I'll throw out something else: I'm not convinced that the emergence from Eden occurred 6,000 years ago. I think the pre-Abrahamic chronology, at the bare minimum, is a little questionable.

[scottie]

If we assume that a day/month/year to Joseph Smith was the same as a day/month/year to us, then the Q&A in D&C 77 answers the age of the Earth question:

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Q. What are we to understand by the book which John saw, which was sealed on the back with seven seals?
A. We are to understand that it contains the revealed will, mysteries, and the works of God; the hidden things of his economy concerning this earth during the seven thousand years of its continuance, or its temporal existence.

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/77

Is carbon dating a tool of the devil? The devil can be such a jerk sometimes.

[wuapinmon]

THAT. IS. AWESOME!

[kccougar]

My opinion on pre-Adamites is not based on anything but what makes sense to me:

God created man. He never says how he did it. The bible says that God created man and then placed him in the garden. Could he not have used evolution as the process for creating man and once he got what he wanted he took that man and placed him in the Garden?

[Fiyero]

Laugh at my insights all you want, but as a direct descendant of Zelph I am entitled to many plain and precious truths that are too meaty for this wicked and adulterous generation.

[Indy Coug]

I believe that the days in the Genesis creation stories were really periods and likewise, I believe that the 7 "seals" are really periods that are neither equal in length, nor necessarily approximately 1,000 years long.

[ERCougar]

I believe that the days in the Genesis creation stories were really periods and likewise, I believe that the 7 "seals" are really periods that are neither equal in length, nor necessarily approximately 1,000 years long.

And your view of D&C 77:6?

Not a troll, but I'm honestly curious how the more conservative members view this scripture.

[Green Lantern]

My opinion on pre-Adamites is not based on anything but what makes sense to me:

God created man. He never says how he did it. The bible says that God created man and then placed him in the garden. Could he not have used evolution as the process for creating man and once he got what he wanted he took that man and placed him in the Garden?

Anybody have thoughts on the book EVOLUTION AND MORMONISM? I thought it contained a pretty excellent example of this train of thought.

[Indy Coug]

And your view of D&C 77:6?

Not a troll, but I'm honestly curious how the more conservative members view this scripture.

Explain to me what event occurred on or near 1000 AD that brought about the opening of the 6th seal?

[ERCougar]

Explain to me what event occurred on or near 1000 AD that brought about the opening of the 6th seal?

Um...can you answer the question? I'm honestly not wanting to argue things because I think we probably agree on the end answer. My question is, how do you reconcile it with JS saying the earth is 7000 years old? He doesn't answer in terms of "seals"--he says 7000 years of existence.

[Pheidippides]

I believe that the days in the Genesis creation stories were really periods and likewise, I believe that the 7 "seals" are really periods that are neither equal in length, nor necessarily approximately 1,000 years long.

I also believe this (I'm two for two agreeing with Indy today) and I interpret the temple ceremony to support this.

[Indy Coug]

Um...can you answer the question? I'm honestly not wanting to argue things because I think we probably agree on the end answer. My question is, how do you reconcile it with JS saying the earth is 7000 years old? He doesn't answer in terms of "seals"--he says 7000 years of existence.

My guess is that he was extrapolating based on the Kolob Day = 1,000 years math.

[Indy Coug]

My opinion on pre-Adamites is not based on anything but what makes sense to me:

God created man. He never says how he did it. The bible says that God created man and then placed him in the garden. Could he not have used evolution as the process for creating man and once he got what he wanted he took that man and placed him in the Garden?

There is a book I read which relates a common theme in the oral histories of numerous ancient cultures worldwide where divine beings impart wisdom to mankind to help with things like agriculture, animal breeding and so forth. The book claims that the technological development of mankind took off at a fantastic rate from roughly the same starting point after the end of the last Ice Age.

Now, I'm not throwing out this as proof, nor as something I necessarily believe in, but it did come to mind when you mentioned pre-Adamites.

[wuapinmon]

How old do the scriptures say the earth actually is? Cuz I personally believe it's 40 million or billion or trillion or whatever years old and that dinosaurs help me travel to work every day and such.

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