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  • Originally posted by 1337coug View Post
    They're not trying to make it as realistic as possible, they're trying to make it as balanced as possible. People for quick scoping say that it's necessary for balance because in close combat situations, quick scoping gives them some sort of a fighting chance against someone using an assault rifle or SMG. People against it basically just say that it's overpowered and unrealistic.
    I think I don't mind quick-scoping ultimately. It reminds me of that scene in Saving Private Ryan when they turned the AA gun on the Germans. A weapon not meant for close range is horrifically deadly up close when employed correctly.
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    • Originally posted by 1337coug View Post
      They're not trying to make it as realistic as possible, they're trying to make it as balanced as possible. People for quick scoping say that it's necessary for balance because in close combat situations, quick scoping gives them some sort of a fighting chance against someone using an assault rifle or SMG. People against it basically just say that it's overpowered and unrealistic.
      That is why you have a secondary weapon. You choose Sniper Rifles so that you are deadly at long range but the disadvantage is that you are not as good upclose. You can't have both.
      *Banned*

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      • Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
        That is why you have a secondary weapon. You choose Sniper Rifles so that you are deadly at long range but the disadvantage is that you are not as good upclose. You can't have both.
        This

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        • Originally posted by 1337coug View Post
          They're not trying to make it as realistic as possible, they're trying to make it as balanced as possible. People for quick scoping say that it's necessary for balance because in close combat situations, quick scoping gives them some sort of a fighting chance against someone using an assault rifle or SMG. People against it basically just say that it's overpowered and unrealistic.
          If balance is desired, then I think quick scoping should be taken away. Sniping gives you the advantage from far away, so why should it be made equal (or better) to an UMP at short distance? You can't snipe with an UMP.

          I also think that any hit with a sniper rifle should result in instant death. Seeing the Barrett in action in Hurt Locker makes me think even a shot to the shoulder would kill you.

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          • i think it's important to note that even the best quickscopers are nowhere near as efficient at close range as an assault rifle. quickscoping, by its nature, is inconsistent and depends more on connection quality, opponents' connections, and other factors than any other weapon.
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            • Originally posted by 1337coug View Post
              360 guys, if you haven't made your pre-order yet you can get the game and a 3 month xbox live gold card for $50 with free shipping from dell. Thats what I'm getting, so I'll actually have it for both systems right after launch.
              http://www.logicbuy.com/deals/call-o...ame/21273.aspx

              EDIT: Right as I posted that they changed it to $60 with free shipping.
              $60 is regular price, right? so with free overnight shipping and 3 months free xbox live, its still a good deal.
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              • Nukes number 7 and 8 tonight, on Terminal and Rundown respectively. Number 7 was easy - spawn trap them at A and you win. It's very hard NOT to get a nuke with the AC if you have B and C and know anything about doing that. I was really close another couple of times on Terminal.

                On Rundown, I had to be patient and camp for the last five kills. Long live claymores!
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                • Originally posted by filsdepac View Post
                  If balance is desired, then I think quick scoping should be taken away. Sniping gives you the advantage from far away, so why should it be made equal (or better) to an UMP at short distance? You can't snipe with an UMP. I also think that any hit with a sniper rifle should result in instant death. Seeing the Barrett in action in Hurt Locker makes me think even a shot to the shoulder would kill you.
                  I beg to differ. Have you not been killed across the map with a silenced UMP? I know I have.
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                  • Originally posted by nikuman View Post
                    Nukes number 7 and 8 tonight, on Terminal and Rundown respectively. Number 7 was easy - spawn trap them at A and you win. It's very hard NOT to get a nuke with the AC if you have B and C and know anything about doing that. I was really close another couple of times on Terminal.

                    On Rundown, I had to be patient and camp for the last five kills. Long live claymores!
                    Nice! My nuke on Rundown, I was all over the map trying to get the last few kills.
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                    • Originally posted by FN Phat View Post
                      Nice! My nuke on Rundown, I was all over the map trying to get the last few kills.
                      Rundown is much harder to trap people with the AC because of all of the walls, buildings, level changes, etc. (I never use the chopper gunner anymore as it's too easy to bring down).

                      For my money the easiest one to trap people on is Terminal if you have B and C. You just keep putting bombs in the one skylight and you will rack up kills. I had a different game where I died at 14 while running for cover but had an AC ready when I respawned. I switched to a class with danger close pro and let them have it. I had a quintuple kill, a quadruple kill and three triple kills in addition to all the singles and doubles. Seriously like 25 kills in 40 seconds. Way easy. Went like 65-6 in that game.

                      I will be on tonight if anybody wants to try for a nuke-fest. I need two more for my emblem and I always love it when buddies get nukes too. We have several of us that can and do get them.
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                      • I think I am going to jump on and play after a Halloween party that we are going to go to.

                        Anyone else thinking about playing late tonight?
                        "Take it to the Bank"

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                        • Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
                          I think I am going to jump on and play after a Halloween party that we are going to go to.

                          Anyone else thinking about playing late tonight?
                          I am. Go buy a PS3 and we can play together.

                          By the way they need to develop some sort of cross platform online gaming. So that no matter the system you can still play one another online. That would be sick.
                          *Banned*

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                          • Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
                            I think I am going to jump on and play after a Halloween party that we are going to go to.

                            Anyone else thinking about playing late tonight?

                            lets do it. Game on.

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                            • Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                              I am. Go buy a PS3 and we can play together.

                              By the way they need to develop some sort of cross platform online gaming. So that no matter the system you can still play one another online. That would be sick.
                              You go buy a 360, they are less money. Plus you can roll with Phat, Coach, Sizzle, Niku and a big group of us cool cats that run on the 360.
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                              • Originally posted by filsdepac View Post
                                If balance is desired, then I think quick scoping should be taken away. Sniping gives you the advantage from far away, so why should it be made equal (or better) to an UMP at short distance? You can't snipe with an UMP.

                                I also think that any hit with a sniper rifle should result in instant death. Seeing the Barrett in action in Hurt Locker makes me think even a shot to the shoulder would kill you.
                                I think the point is that if you try and kill someone with an ump at long distance you have a chance, just not a good one. With close range and a sniper it's the same situation. When I'm running around with the scar and I come across a sniper, I'm very confident that I will be able to kill him before he can quick scope me, but occasionally he will. Getting rid of quick scoping you won't have a fighting chance.

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