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  • Originally posted by FN Phat View Post
    If I buy you on for your birthday will you get XBL and this game AND play it?!?
    Originally posted by Surfah View Post
    :rockon1:
    UPDATE: Gidget said no

    It appears that Surfah's cojones are still tucked in her handbag for safe keeping. I was hoping that at some point this last weekend that he would at least make an attempt to retrieve them but I was disappointed by the lack of effort on his part. I can only assume that he understands that they are now only on loan...when she tells him that he can have them for a short ammount of time.
    I'm your huckleberry.


    "I love pulling the bone. Really though, what guy doesn't?" - CJF

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    • Originally posted by Colly Wolly View Post
      I've never even heard of those games. I was too busy playing Gears of War in HD on Xbox Live in '06. What were you playing on the PS2 during this timeframe?
      Burn! I'm glad you're relying on games that came out in 2006 to bolster the XBox. Since the XBox has had a total of five exclusives rated above 85 on metacritic that have come out since 2008 and the PS3 has had 13, I guess you were kind of forced into that argument. (see below) Thanks for finally clearing up that the XBox 360 is a more capable machine than the PS2, I was a little confused about that. I'm going to go out on a limb and that the PS2 kicked the XBox's ass in 2000 and 2001. Unfortunately, it's totally irrelevant to the question in 2010 of which console to buy.

      I noticed in your previous post that you didn't address my point about the XBox's shittier exclusive list. I hate to parrot DDD's line, but as usual when it comes to the actual games, there's not much to talk about. You're not going to get much of an argument from me that XBox Live is better than PSN and MS has established a foothold by having the superior interface and getting groups of friends that are all on the same system. I clearly understand that even though I poke fun at the added utility

      But that doesn't mean the 360 is the superior gaming system.

      Just consider the exclusives from 2008 on that have received a rating of 85 or higher on metacritic.com (and I'm only counting true exclusives, you can buy most of the XBox console exclusives on the PC, I also only included significant downloadable games, sorry Critter Crunch didn't make the list for the PS3 and Geometry Wars didn't make it for the XBox 360, and FTR, the PS3 had four I didn't include and the 360 had five):

      XBox 360:

      Gears of War 2 93
      Forza Motorsport 3 92
      Fable 2 89
      Shadow Complex (down-loadable game) 88
      Trials HD (another down-loadable game) 86

      PS3:
      Metal Gear Solid 4 94
      Uncharted 2 96
      Little Big Planet 95
      God of War 3 93
      Killzone 2 91
      Demon's Souls 89
      MLB the Show 09 & 10 (out of fairness, I'm only counting this once) 90
      Wipeout HD Fury 89 (down-loadable game)
      Heavy Rain 87
      Resistance 2 87
      Ratchet and Clank: A Crack in Time 87
      Valkyrie Chronicles 86
      InFAMOUS 85

      Final tally: PS3 13, XBox 5. Sony was the publisher of all but two of its exclusives rated at 85 or above between 2008 and now.

      I bought a PS2 in 2002 instead of an XBox. The reason why was the PS2 had more games, the XBox had Halo and that was about it. Fast forward to September 2009, I was faced with the same issue: do I buy an XBox 360 (with all of its accompanying hardware issues) or do I buy a PS3, I had no dog in the fight at this point although I do admit that having the blu-ray player made it easier to get my wife to sign off on it. Here's the criteria I looked at:

      Price: The middle of the road 360 was still available at this point (MS should never have phased this model out) for $250, the PS3 was $300. But wait, to enable wifi, I had to buy the wireless unit from MS which ran about $100. The effective price for the MS was $350, there's no way in hell I'm dragging an ethernet cable from router to my living room, wifi was a must.

      Features and capability: The PS3 has a blu-ray player. At the time, you could buy a player for $150. Personally, I didn't really care that much about having a blu-ray player. However, the blu-ray drive enables the PS3 to have more powerful games (that and a better processor). In the future, the PS3 can play both 3D movies and 3D games. While the 360 was long in tooth, the PS3, at worst, was in the middle of its cycle.

      Games: I already addressed this above and it speaks for itself. Plain and simply put, the PS3 is now curb stomping the 360. This is in large measure due to the fact that Sony has incredible first party developers. A big portion of the games I played on the PS2 were published by Sony. In addition, a huge portion of the PS1 library is available for download.

      I had heard multiple times that XBox Live was superior to PSN, I had even heard that some multiplatform games work better on the 360. However, there was no effing way I was going to pay more money for a console that was inferior both in hardware specs, future capability and amount of quality content. A better online interface simply wasn't enough to make up for these shortcomings. If I want to play a game online, the PSN still allows me to do that.
      Last edited by Color Me Badd Fan; 04-12-2010, 05:21 PM.
      Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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      • Originally posted by FN Phat View Post
        UPDATE: Gidget said no

        It appears that Surfah's cojones are still tucked in her handbag for safe keeping. I was hoping that at some point this last weekend that he would at least make an attempt to retrieve them but I was disappointed by the lack of effort on his part. I can only assume that he understands that they are now only on loan...when she tells him that he can have them for a short ammount of time.
        LOL dude, I did this same thing for my brother. I knew he would never buy an Xbox for himself given his wife, so I just purchased him one and gave it to him. Set him up with an Xbox Live subscription as well. No need to ask the wife for permission, just do it. I don't regret it for a minute, and I care not for any damage it may have done to their relationship.

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        • Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
          Burn! I'm glad you're relying on games that came out in 2006 to bolster the XBox. Since the XBox has had a total of five exclusives rated above 85 on metacritic that have come out since 2008 and the PS3 has had 13, I guess you were kind of forced into that argument. (see below) Thanks for finally clearing up that the XBox 360 is a more capable machine than the PS2, I was a little confused about that. I'm going to go out on a limb and that the PS2 kicked the XBox's ass in 2000 and 2001. Unfortunately, it's totally irrelevant to the question in 2010 of which console to buy.

          I noticed in your previous post that you didn't address my point about the XBox's shittier exclusive list. I hate to parrot DDD's line, but as usual when it comes to the actual games, there's not much to talk about. You're not going to get much of an argument from me that XBox Live is better than PSN and MS has established a foothold by having the superior interface and getting groups of friends that are all on the same system. I clearly understand that even though I poke fun at the added utility

          But that doesn't mean the 360 is the superior gaming system.

          Just consider the exclusives from 2008 on that have received a rating of 85 or higher on metacritic.com (and I'm only counting true exclusives, you can buy most of the XBox console exclusives on the PC, I also only included significant downloadable games, sorry Critter Crunch didn't make the list for the PS3 and Geometry Wars didn't make it for the XBox 360, and FTR, the PS3 had four I didn't include and the 360 had five):

          XBox 360:

          Gears of War 2 93
          Forza Motorsport 3 92
          Fable 2 89
          Shadow Complex (down-loadable game) 88
          Trials HD (another down-loadable game) 86

          PS3:
          Metal Gear Solid 4 94
          Uncharted 2 96
          Little Big Planet 95
          God of War 3 93
          Killzone 2 91
          Demon's Souls 89
          MLB the Show 09 & 10 (out of fairness, I'm only counting this once) 90
          Wipeout HD Fury 89 (down-loadable game)
          Heavy Rain 87
          Resistance 2 87
          Ratchet and Clank: A Crack in Time 87
          Valkyrie Chronicles 86
          InFAMOUS 85

          Final tally: PS3 13, XBox 5. Sony was the publisher of all but two of its exclusives rated at 85 or above between 2008 and now.

          I bought a PS2 in 2002 instead of an XBox. The reason why was the PS2 had more games, the XBox had Halo and that was about it. Fast forward to September 2009, I was faced with the same issue: do I buy an XBox 360 (with all of its accompanying hardware issues) or do I buy a PS3, I had no dog in the fight at this point although I do admit that having the blu-ray player made it easier to get my wife to sign off on it. Here's the criteria I looked at:

          Price: The middle of the road 360 was still available at this point (MS should never have phased this model out) for $250, the PS3 was $300. But wait, to enable wifi, I had to buy the wireless unit from MS which ran about $100. The effective price for the MS was $350, there's no way in hell I'm dragging an ethernet cable from router to my living room, wifi was a must.

          Features and capability: The PS3 has a blu-ray player. At the time, you could buy a player for $150. Personally, I didn't really care that much about having a blu-ray player. However, the blu-ray drive enables the PS3 to have more powerful games (that and a better processor). In the future, the PS3 can play both 3D movies and 3D games. While the 360 was long in tooth, the PS3, at worst, was in the middle of its cycle.

          Games: I already addressed this above and it speaks for itself. Plain and simply put, the PS3 is now curb stomping the 360. This is in large measure due to the fact that Sony has incredible first party developers. A big portion of the games I played on the PS2 were published by Sony. In addition, a huge portion of the PS1 library is available for download.

          I had heard multiple times that XBox Live was superior to PSN, I had even heard that some multiplatform games work better on the 360. However, there was effing way I was going to pay more money for a console that was inferior both in hardware specs, future capability and amount of quality content. A better online interface simply wasn't enough to make up for these shortcomings. If I want to play a game online, the PSN still allows me to do that.
          That was quite the essay young man. I can't say I bothered to read it all. I'll just ask you a simple question: do you own an Xbox 360?

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          • Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
            Burn! I'm glad you're relying on games that came out in 2006 to bolster the XBox. Since the XBox has had a total of five exclusives rated above 85 on metacritic that have come out since 2008 and the PS3 has had 13, I guess you were kind of forced into that argument. (see below) Thanks for finally clearing up that the XBox 360 is a more capable machine than the PS2, I was a little confused about that. I'm going to go out on a limb and that the PS2 kicked the XBox's ass in 2000 and 2001. Unfortunately, it's totally irrelevant to the question in 2010 of which console to buy.

            I noticed in your previous post that you didn't address my point about the XBox's shittier exclusive list. I hate to parrot DDD's line, but as usual when it comes to the actual games, there's not much to talk about. You're not going to get much of an argument from me that XBox Live is better than PSN and MS has established a foothold by having the superior interface and getting groups of friends that are all on the same system. I clearly understand that even though I poke fun at the added utility

            But that doesn't mean the 360 is the superior gaming system.

            Just consider the exclusives from 2008 on that have received a rating of 85 or higher on metacritic.com (and I'm only counting true exclusives, you can buy most of the XBox console exclusives on the PC, I also only included significant downloadable games, sorry Critter Crunch didn't make the list for the PS3 and Geometry Wars didn't make it for the XBox 360, and FTR, the PS3 had four I didn't include and the 360 had five):

            XBox 360:

            Gears of War 2 93
            Forza Motorsport 3 92
            Fable 2 89
            Shadow Complex (down-loadable game) 88
            Trials HD (another down-loadable game) 86

            PS3:
            Metal Gear Solid 4 94
            Uncharted 2 96
            Little Big Planet 95
            God of War 3 93
            Killzone 2 91
            Demon's Souls 89
            MLB the Show 09 & 10 (out of fairness, I'm only counting this once) 90
            Wipeout HD Fury 89 (down-loadable game)
            Heavy Rain 87
            Resistance 2 87
            Ratchet and Clank: A Crack in Time 87
            Valkyrie Chronicles 86
            InFAMOUS 85

            Final tally: PS3 13, XBox 5. Sony was the publisher of all but two of its exclusives rated at 85 or above between 2008 and now.

            I bought a PS2 in 2002 instead of an XBox. The reason why was the PS2 had more games, the XBox had Halo and that was about it. Fast forward to September 2009, I was faced with the same issue: do I buy an XBox 360 (with all of its accompanying hardware issues) or do I buy a PS3, I had no dog in the fight at this point although I do admit that having the blu-ray player made it easier to get my wife to sign off on it. Here's the criteria I looked at:

            Price: The middle of the road 360 was still available at this point (MS should never have phased this model out) for $250, the PS3 was $300. But wait, to enable wifi, I had to buy the wireless unit from MS which ran about $100. The effective price for the MS was $350, there's no way in hell I'm dragging an ethernet cable from router to my living room, wifi was a must.

            Features and capability: The PS3 has a blu-ray player. At the time, you could buy a player for $150. Personally, I didn't really care that much about having a blu-ray player. However, the blu-ray drive enables the PS3 to have more powerful games (that and a better processor). In the future, the PS3 can play both 3D movies and 3D games. While the 360 was long in tooth, the PS3, at worst, was in the middle of its cycle.

            Games: I already addressed this above and it speaks for itself. Plain and simply put, the PS3 is now curb stomping the 360. This is in large measure due to the fact that Sony has incredible first party developers. A big portion of the games I played on the PS2 were published by Sony. In addition, a huge portion of the PS1 library is available for download.

            I had heard multiple times that XBox Live was superior to PSN, I had even heard that some multiplatform games work better on the 360. However, there was no effing way I was going to pay more money for a console that was inferior both in hardware specs, future capability and amount of quality content. A better online interface simply wasn't enough to make up for these shortcomings. If I want to play a game online, the PSN still allows me to do that.
            Man, we've been through this all 10 times already! Let's keep this thread pure! This thread is about more than the console war. Its about paying homage to the greatest FPS ever released, on either platform!
            Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

            "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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            • Originally posted by falafel View Post
              Man, we've been through this all 10 times already! Let's keep this thread pure! This thread is about more than the console war. Its about paying homage to the greatest FPS ever released, on either platform!
              Chill dude, it's just for fun.

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              • Originally posted by Colly Wolly View Post
                Chill dude, it's just for fun.
                Don't worry bro, I'm chill. You must have missed the last time when CMBF and I had this exact same argument for 5 pages.
                Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                • Originally posted by falafel View Post
                  Don't worry bro, I'm chill. You must have missed the last time when CMBF and I had this exact same argument for 5 pages.
                  Let me have my turn.

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                  • Originally posted by falafel View Post
                    Man, we've been through this all 10 times already! Let's keep this thread pure! This thread is about more than the console war. Its about paying homage to the greatest FPS ever released, on either platform!
                    I apologize for spamming up this thread, but just realize that someone needs to take down the Lakers thread and no one has my ability to beat a dead horse.
                    Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                    • Originally posted by Colly Wolly View Post
                      Let me have my turn.
                      Okay, okay. But don't be surprised when CMBF a) doesn't listen to what you say, b) trots out the same bizarre arguments over and over (in-game texting as the only difference between XBL and PSN?!) and c) brings this all up again in 3 months time.
                      Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                      "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                      • Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                        I apologize for spamming up this thread, but just realize that someone needs to take down the Lakers thread and no one has my ability to beat a dead horse.
                        lol. That's a justification I can accept.
                        Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                        "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                        • Originally posted by Colly Wolly View Post
                          Let me have my turn.
                          There's nothing to discuss.

                          13 to 5 vs. superior online interface and established social networks. There's no further way to spin it. A PS3 owner has more quality games, while a XBox 360 owner gets to chat with his brother living in Hong Kong. The 360 largely owns the FPS genre due to the Halo legacy and the Michael Caine's Blame It On Rio genre, the PS3 owns everything else.
                          Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                          • Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                            There's nothing to discuss.

                            13 to 5 vs. superior online interface and established social networks. There's no further way to spin it. A PS3 owner has more quality games, while a XBox 360 owner gets to chat with his brother living in Hong Kong. The 360 largely owns the FPS genre due to the Halo legacy and the Michael Caine's Blame It On Rio genre, the PS3 owns everything else.
                            I'll assume you didn't see my earlier question: do you own an Xbox 360?

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                            • Originally posted by FN Phat View Post
                              I am with you on that.

                              On an unrelated note, I am thinking of convincing my wife of letting my get the PS3. There are a few of you gentlemen on the PS3 that I would enjoy playing with. Some others that I would enjoy picking on and talking shit to. I don't think that I am going to be able to get my ol' lady to let me do it but then again forgiveness is easier than permission
                              I hope you do, since I believe your style is similar to mine and it'd be fun to have another run-n-gunner like CJ and me. Plus, we could use some more smack talk help since RF's "hey Tenveux, you suck....you suck....you noobtuber..." doesn't quite get my blood boiling. Nice try though, RF.

                              Also unrelated, we were playing sabotage last Friday and I was trying to get everyone to meet at a rally point. The way I said it was even more dorky than it sounds, and my fiancee overheard it unfortunately and I've been getting made fun of since. Oh well, we won that game.

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                              • Originally posted by falafel View Post
                                Okay, okay. But don't be surprised when CMBF a) doesn't listen to what you say, b) trots out the same bizarre arguments over and over (in-game texting as the only difference between XBL and PSN?!) and c) brings this all up again in 3 months time.
                                As far as I can tell, in terms of content and sheer gaming capability, XBL and PSN are largely the same. The interface on XBL is far better in that you can get from point A to point B much more efficiently and there are some additional features like in-game texting. I'm kind of joking around about the in-game texting thing. But in general, PS3 owners make a little too much about the blu-ray player thing and 360 owners make too big of a deal about the marginal utility of XBL over PSN. They kind of balance each other out- the PS3 plays games that the XBox can't handle (Uncharted 2) and the 360 is a far better online experience.

                                Which means it comes back to the exclusive content. The XBox ruled in 2006 and 2007 for obvious reasons: the PS3 either wasn't even out or was in its infancy. From 2008 on, the PS3 exclusives have far outpaced the XBox exclusives. MGS4, Uncharted 2, Little Big Planet and God of War 3 are not inconsequential games, all of them have ratings that are equal to or higher than the best XBox exclusive (Gears of War 2) since 2008.
                                Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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