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  • Originally posted by MarkGrace View Post
    So who do people think did it? Big pool of candidates it would seem.
    Yeah, I think a shorter list would be those who didn't want it to happen.
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    • I think it was the Tyrell grandmother.
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      • I hope it was Sansa, but I doubt it.
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        • Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
          I think it was the Tyrell grandmother.
          She's awesome.
          So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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          • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
            I hope it was Sansa, but I doubt it.
            She seemed pretty clueless as to what was going on when she was ushered out of there, so I'd put her low on the list. But yeah, that would be great.
            So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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            • I have not read the books so I don't know. My bet is on his mum, Cersei. She hates Margaery and the fact she was going to be queen. She gets to frame Tyrion who she hates. She is the cruel enough, and remember she had the poison in the Blackwater episode she was going to poison Joffrey with to keep him from having to suffer had the hands of Stannis.

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              • Originally posted by Bruiserstone View Post
                I have not read the books so I don't know. My bet is on his mum, Cersei. She hates Margaery and the fact she was going to be queen. She gets to frame Tyrion who she hates. She is the cruel enough, and remember she had the poison in the Blackwater episode she was going to poison Joffrey with to keep him from having to suffer had the hands of Stannis.
                Hmm...hadn't thought about that.
                So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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                • Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                  I think it was the Tyrell grandmother.
                  That is the most obvious choice. Tie up the queen position and off the little bugger.

                  Originally posted by Bruiserstone View Post
                  I have not read the books so I don't know. My bet is on his mum, Cersei. She hates Margaery and the fact she was going to be queen. She gets to frame Tyrion who she hates. She is the cruel enough, and remember she had the poison in the Blackwater episode she was going to poison Joffrey with to keep him from having to suffer had the hands of Stannis.
                  WTF? We aren't soliciting answers from bookreaders. See my post above.

                  No way was it Cersei. Other than "she's cruel" that doesn't make any sense at all.
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                  • Originally posted by Bruiserstone View Post
                    I have not read the books so I don't know. My bet is on his mum, Cersei. She hates Margaery and the fact she was going to be queen. She gets to frame Tyrion who she hates. She is the cruel enough, and remember she had the poison in the Blackwater episode she was going to poison Joffrey with to keep him from having to suffer had the hands of Stannis.
                    No way it's Cersei Lannister - there were a couple of scenes where she states her love for her son despite that he's become a monster. Besides, she could have just had Margarey Tyrell killed. IIRC, the poison vile was either spilled or shattered on the floor after Tywin Lannister and Loras Tyrell entered the chamber to announce their victory at Blackwater Bay.
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                    • Ok- definitely not Tyrion. Not Cercei. The cup of wine was grabbed from in front of the grandma, but you know what? I'm not sure it was the wine at all- I think it was the pie. Wasn't he the only one eating, whereas everyone was imbibing? I actually think it was probably Margaery herself. "He's CHOKING" He was clearly not choking- he was sputtering and coughing because of the poison.
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                      • Originally posted by Commando View Post
                        Ok- definitely not Tyrion. Not Cercei. The cup of wine was grabbed from in front of the grandma, but you know what? I'm not sure it was the wine at all- I think it was the pie. Wasn't he the only one eating, whereas everyone was imbibing? I actually think it was probably Margaery herself. "He's CHOKING" He was clearly not choking- he was sputtering and coughing because of the poison.
                        The pie seems possible as well, though if you're planning to poison someone, the pie would likely be more difficult to pull off. How do you know Joffrey will eat first? Or be the only one to eat?

                        The most obvious suspect is the prince dude who had that exchange with Cersei and papa Lannister at the wedding. Dude basically said he was there to kill Lannisters, but that probably makes him too obvious.
                        So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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                        • The only ones we see on camera holding the goblet are Joffrey, Tyrion, Sansa, and Margaery (although she sets it down near Grandma Tyrell). Also Ser Dantos the fool seemed to know a bit too much about what was going on as he wisped Sansa away.

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                          • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                            That is the most obvious choice. Tie up the queen position and off the little bugger.
                            Would Margaery still be queen once Joffrey is dead? I guess so. The grandmother is a pretty good choice.
                            So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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                            • Originally posted by MarkGrace View Post
                              Would Margaery still be queen once Joffrey is dead? I guess so. The grandmother is a pretty good choice.
                              well they didnt consumate the marriage, and since joffrey is no longer king, how could she be queen? it seems it would pass to joffreys heir and then cersei would still be queen regent.

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                              • Originally posted by Maximus View Post
                                well they didnt consumate the marriage, and since joffrey is no longer king, how could she be queen?
                                That was something I was wondering. I didn't know if she became queen when they exchanged their vows or if they had to bone.

                                it seems it would pass to joffreys heir and then cersei would still be queen regent.
                                This could support Bruiserstone's theory. When Cersei and Tywin are talking to that prince dude, he keeps deliberately referring to her as the "former" queen regent. And then when Cersei tells the worker guy that the leftover food is for the hounds, he says "but the queen said," and she retorts, "no, the queen is telling you." Obviously she was going to look to reassert herself, so she has some motivation here. But I agree with JL that it just seems more likely she'd poison her own kid instead of just going after Margaery. Maybe the poison was in a mug intended for Margaery or the grandma and just accidentally ended up with Joffrey? That seems unlikely, though, with the way Sansa was whisked out of there. The Sansa bit seems to indicate a deliberate plan.
                                So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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